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11/10/2013 at 1:11pm
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I seriously think that they may be digging themselves into a position of where many members will simply vote with there feet and go elsewhere for there caravanning needs. From what we have seen this year from the two Cc sites we stayed on, and a couple of others we popped onto just to buy gas, the pitch occupancy has been far lower than in previous seasons.

Last year, 2012, we would have struggled to have got a weeks peak season booking on Sandringham unless we had booked many months in advance, this year we booked after picking up the new caravan mid July, for mid August, no problem, and arrived to a site with still plenty of vacant pitches to spare, the same could be said for Broadlands, when we popped in for gas a week later. I can see this trend continuing if the Cc insist on making their sites into places where you can feel instantly stressed by these regimes on arrival.

We already have 6 weeks worth of bookings for next season, but non of those are, or will be planned on a Cc site, they have definatly lost a regular customer in us.

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12/10/2013 at 8:29am
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Oh yes, and after driving 400 miles to a cc site in cornwall being made to line up with 6 other vans like naughty children until the clock strikes 12 !!!

"The wardens are getting the pitches ready" ,



12/10/2013 at 12:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by and1145 on 12/10/2013
Oh yes, and after driving 400 miles to a cc site in cornwall being made to line up with 6 other vans like naughty children until the clock strikes 12 !!!

"The wardens are getting the pitches ready" ,




I see nothing wrong with that, the wardens have to do their jobs sometime and the handbook does say no arrivals before 12. Wherever you go opening times are advertised, if you arrive before those times you have to wait.



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12/10/2013 at 12:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by and1145 on 12/10/2013
Oh yes, and after driving 400 miles to a cc site in cornwall being made to line up with 6 other vans like naughty children until the clock strikes 12 !!!

"The wardens are getting the pitches ready" ,





We visited Trevedra Farm this summer and they had a very refreshing attitude to arrival times.

My instructions were to arrive any time I liked and to park up in the holding field. As soon as our pitch was empty and mowed we could move onto site.

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12/10/2013 at 4:00pm
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Quote: Originally posted by and1145 on 12/10/2013
Oh yes, and after driving 400 miles to a cc site in cornwall being made to line up with 6 other vans like naughty children until the clock strikes 12 !!!

"The wardens are getting the pitches ready" ,


Its even worse at Sandringham, arrived 10 mins early, not causing any obstruction at all, just waiting by the office for the ten mins to tick away when out comes the jobsworth of a warden who barked at us to turn around and go park down by the visitor centre about a mile down the road and return after 12 noon. he refused to raise the barrier to allow us to turn around more easily, and insisted we did a very tight swing with our brand new hitch screaming and groaning inorder to exit the site.

By the time we had got onto the visitor centre car park it was time to come back again, but we were very angry as we had to use a rather bumpy tree rooted road to gain access to where we were sent, not good for any caravans construction.

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12/10/2013 at 4:11pm
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Quote: Originally posted by TonyC52 on 10/10/2013
The exercise is due to complete soon. The Club have declined to give information on the full extent of the changes until it is complete. It will probably be next year when we see what these changes actually mean.

I have it on good authority that the Club set out on this exercise because last year there were three serious fires on Club sites. Understandably this has caused them to look seriously at pitch spacing. Whether because of pressure from those investigating the fires or because insurance companies have made it a condition of cover. When I was told this I mentioned to the person giving me this information that members would have been far more sympathetic to the changes had they been aware of the background information. Something the Club still has a lot to learn from.

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13/10/2013 at 2:50pm
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Agree David, the Club does a lot of things right, or we would not be members, but it seems incapable of saying it has made a mistake or admitting when things go wrong. Always seems to come out with the same old spin. I for one prefer the honest approach.

With respect to non-awning pitches, as the 6m\3m spacing has been in place for years I guess they can't admit the number of pitches that failed to meet this requirement on Club sites.

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13/10/2013 at 5:53pm
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I did make that point to the person that told me who was very high up

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13/10/2013 at 10:38pm
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Well even under the new spacing regime there certainly wasnt 3 mtrs between the side of our caravan and next pitches car on our non awning pitch.
Are the club now measuring the distances and taking the minimum as being 3mtrs between just the caravans on these pitches?

Surely a parked car is just as risky to go up in flames or of being ignited as a caravan is?

For us the rule of the non awning pitches was to park your car to the right of your caravan, leaving less than a mtr of grass verge before the next caravan had about another mtr in which to store its water hog ect, so in

total no where near 3mtrs between the left of your caravan and next doors parked car.

Julia

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14/10/2013 at 11:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by Taxater on 09/10/2013
I thought the non-awning pitches were for motorhomes.

What is that logic based on? A lot of motorhomes have canopies, as does ours, and a lot of those can have fronts and sides attached to it, the same as caravans, and will therefore have a full awning.

I always book an awning pitch as very often we put our canopy out and attach one side to it, to keep the prevailing wind out.

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I D.A. camping with the C&CC and this thread just confirms it!

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Quote: Originally posted by rabble on 14/10/2013
I D.A. camping with the C&CC and this thread just confirms it!



Thats worse when we went on a d.a you were less than 4ft apart non thats really dangerous , dont they have any rules some vans were parked in groups and you could not walk between them.
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we always use the caravan club cl network these days you get a smile off the owners and don't have someone following you around while setting up incase you a inch or two out on your p/peg .

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Quote: Originally posted by romany girl on 13/10/2013Well even under the new spacing regime there certainly wasnt 3 mtrs between the side of our caravan and next pitches car on our non awning pitch.
Are the club now measuring the distances and taking the minimum as being 3mtrs between just the caravans on these pitches?

Surely a parked car is just as risky to go up in flames or of being ignited as a caravan is?

For us the rule of the non awning pitches was to park your car to the right of your caravan, leaving less than a mtr of grass verge before the next caravan had about another mtr in which to store its water hog ect, so in

total no where near 3mtrs between the left of your caravan and next doors parked car.

Julia

Julia

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Post last edited on 13/10/2013 22:48:05



There should be 6m between main units (caravans, motorhomes etc.) and 3m between other equipment (cars, windbreaks, awnings etc.)So that pitch did not meet the rules even for a non-awning one.

Same rules should apply on CL's, where it is not normally an issue, and on Rallies.

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Hi Julia I was informed by a member of the Fire Brigade many years ago that there had to be 26ft 8 inches between the centre of one tow hitch and the next which is just over 8 metres this would allow for a  8ft wide awning and a car plus 3to 4 ft for the guy next door to empty his dirty water barrel + fill his fresh water containers but more inportant room for the Brigade to get up and douse your awning or tackle the fire in the next van, I always where possible park my motor at right angles to my tow hitch. and awning, bonnet to hitch so my beloved can still see out of front windows also acts as a wind break for awning,leaving room for us to sunbath at side of awning "weather permitting." But there again I have been on sites where I have been given a parking drawing by reception detailing I had to park my car on the off side of the van with a gap no more than a metre wide between car and my van, But now vans are legal at 3metres and some awnings are 3600 mm wide plus cars are now wider than my first moggi 1000                       WHAT HAPPENED TO yards feet and inches

   I think That even 28ft 8inches or 8metres has gone by the board now days, what are your thoughts on this Scouse Git




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