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22/2/2013 at 8:44pm
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Just because people have expressed opinions one way or the other doesn't mean they expect people to do as they do or agree with them. Whatever gets banned or introduced into the world of caravan/camp sites will always produce winners and losers.

Also, if someone says that they enjoy buying produce locally when they go camping, it does not imply that they do not do so when they are at home whether the merits of that or otherwise make any difference to other people. Therefore, when this comment was mentioned, I am not sure why. This doesn't really have any bearing on someone enjoying shopping locally when they are camping.

If everyone posted a simple "Yes or No" in reply to some of the questions and information posted on here, it would be a pretty dull forum. People are saying why they agree with something and their reasons why. I'm not sure what is wrong with that. Some people have voiced their opinions more strongly than others but nobody has been unfriendly in my opinion (unless a comment has been removed that I have not seen).

I guess that, if someone wants to go on holiday and have their shopping delivered then they can choose a site that will allow this by ringing and checking. The other point is that, if people are members of a club that ban something that they like, they can vote with their feet and leave and tell the said organisation why they have done so or, maybe, they could ask the organisation to do a poll of members (online is easy and cheap) and then, if more people want deliveries than don't then, maybe, they will reconsider.

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22/2/2013 at 11:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Suzianna on 22/2/2013Just because people have expressed opinions one way or the other doesn't mean they expect people to do as they do or agree with them. Whatever gets banned or introduced into the world of caravan/camp sites will always produce winners and losers.
Also, if someone says that they enjoy buying produce locally when they go camping, it does not imply that they do not do so when they are at home whether the merits of that or otherwise make any difference to other people. Therefore, when this comment was mentioned, I am not sure why. This doesn't really have any bearing on someone enjoying shopping locally when they are camping.

If everyone posted a simple "Yes or No" in reply to some of the questions and information posted on here, it would be a pretty dull forum. People are saying why they agree with something and their
reasons why. I'm not sure what is wrong with that. Some people have
voiced their opinions more strongly than others but nobody has been
unfriendly in my opinion (unless a comment has been removed that I
have not seen ).
I guess that, if someone wants to go on holiday and have their shopping delivered then they can choose a site that will allow this by ringing and checking. The other point is that, if people are members of a club that ban something that they like, they can vote with their feet and leave and tell the said organisation why they have done so or, maybe, they could ask the organisation to do a poll of members (online is easy and cheap) and then, if more people want deliveries than don't then, maybe, they will reconsider.


YES ( i agree )


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23/2/2013 at 11:24am
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Many different views. We both agree with the banning on site as you can still get the groceries delivered to the front gate and collect them yourself. If you are too lazy to do this then maybe find another hobby!


23/2/2013 at 11:37am
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The confusion is though, is that allowed?

There is still the risk the driver may ask staff to accept etc?

Though of course it eliminates extra vehicles on site etc. Which seems to be the main concern etc.

Guess if they cleared up what is allowed, then everyone would be happy.



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23/2/2013 at 12:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 1Man1Dog on 23/2/2013

The confusion is though, is that allowed?

There is still the risk the driver may ask staff to accept etc?

Though of course it eliminates extra vehicles on site etc. Which seems to be the main concern etc.

Guess if they cleared up what is allowed, then everyone would be happy.





They cannot stop deliveries to the gate on most sites, but some sites have a system where you need to be off by a certain time due to the lane to the site being narrow and not allowing passing vehicles. Imagine driving down one of these lanes and the you came face to face with a delivery van who does not want to back up?



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23/2/2013 at 10:10pm
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I'm not particularly fussed either way though I personally prefer to shop local - preferably in independents rather than supermarkets when away or even use a local takeaway or eat at a pub/restaurant.  But expense comes into it for some - it does to me as a singleton pensioner, too, but this is my holiday/break. And the argument that it is hard for a larger family, possibly with dog, to pack all the gear in one vehicle and that maybe they don't want to drag the kids round unfamiliar shops - or a familiar supermarket brand - on the first day of their hols.

If they generally cannot stop deliveries to the gate on most sites or even if there's restricted access because of narrow lanes, then surely the person ordering can sort this out at the time they place their order?  You can tell I don't have the online ordering facility here so that's why I'm sounding like a dumb blonde! 17

What I didn't appreciate last year was being asked if I was staying on site during the day and would I take a delivery from the Co-op - less than quarter of a mile away from site - for the adjacent caravanners. I kicked myself, smiled apologetically and said no, I'd be off site from 7am and not back till at least 6pm. As you can imagine, ire was boiling up inside!!

My original questions still stand: have the CC asked it's membership and to what extent is it a real problem? Only members can answer that!

 



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23/2/2013 at 10:35pm
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If you read the CC statement, it seems they are suggesting people order food, which arrives on site before they do.

It was with this in mind that I wondered if they would allow deliveries the car park. Because they could still impact staff if the CC's claims are to be believed.

To be honest ordering food to arrive not long after you plan on arriving yourself, is a huge risk. Who knows what delays etc you may have en-route.



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24/2/2013 at 8:46am
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We can all continue to speculate as much as we like..but they must've tried allowing  these deliveries and for what ever reasons(..be it unwanted traffic on site,"congestion" at gate/access road or wardens needing to chase up folk or accept deliveries for them,disruption/irritation to others on site etc..it doesn't really matter which),the fact is they've made a decision to no longer allow them.

(..as for "have they asked their members?",well as with any sites, there are many "rules" in place and I don't recall ever being asked about them either...).

As I've posted previously,most(if not all) of the "commercial" we tend to use, have a "No taxis/No Take-Away deliveries etc on site" rule anyway...So I really can't see what all the faff is about.

Just out of interest 1man 1dog,can I just ask,seeing as you've had a lot of input in this thread,will this "ban" vastly impact on your CC site usage?..

(edited due to some poor spelling )



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24/2/2013 at 9:47am
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I do not use a delivery van, whatsoever.   I like to mooch around shops.  My DS doesn't,  It is nice to see what's in the local shops and see what they are selling. 

I fully understand why  people like to do this.   On the other hand,   From previous posts, my imagination is running away with me,    of delivery vans bumper to bumper, mass invasions.  No one can move in or out.    NO it's just me setting up my tent, then wanting to go to do a bit of shopping, but I can't, because my way  is blocked, no its not delivery vans,  but motorhomes and caravans.

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24/2/2013 at 2:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by robnchar on 22/2/2013
The one thing that struck me is this is the caravan club ! That's caravans as in the big white boxy things with loads and loads of storage space . Why would you need shopping delivered if your towing what is basically a cool box on wheels .
On the other hand if it was campsites banning deliveries and im thinking more the family sites that take large tents and large family groups . i know squeezing four or more in a car plus all the gear and the dog gives you little room for food so a delivery can make good sense if there's no nearby alternative.
    



Yes there is (usually) lots of storage space, however I would suspect that most people have their vans already fully loaded to the max legal before we start to include food shopping. I know our weekly shop can easily weigh 20kgs and more, if we tried to get that in the van then mrs saftlad would have to leave her ball-gowns at home


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Was told to take down washing line when trying to dry kids swimming things last year, did they want me to put money in the on site dryers? Does any one else wonder if the delivery ban has anything to do with the increasing amount of on site shop/mini markets?? Surely not just me being far too suspicious! But why ban taxis?

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25/2/2013 at 4:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rabble on 25/2/2013
Was told to take down washing line when trying to dry kids swimming things last year, did they want me to put money in the on site dryers? Does any one else wonder if the delivery ban has anything to do with the increasing amount of on site shop/mini markets?? Surely not just me being far too suspicious! But why ban taxis?



you could be right regard site shops but you wouldnt go to a pub and order pizza from else were would you . Banning Taxis is crazy that would just encourage drink driving and i know what id rather see pull up at site . a possible drunk at the wheel or a group in a taxi !


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Take the food you need with you for the first night and morning then go shopping - simple!


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Quote: Originally posted by 1Man1Dog on 23/2/2013
If you read the CC statement, it seems they are suggesting people order food, which arrives on site before they do.

It was with this in mind that I wondered if they would allow deliveries the car park. Because they could still impact staff if the CC's claims are to be believed.

To be honest ordering food to arrive not long after you plan on arriving yourself, is a huge risk. Who knows what delays etc you may have en-route.


 

Doh! I misread that! Surely anyone can manage enough for for the first night and breakfast? IMHO of course!



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