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25/8/2008 at 7:09pm
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Hi there - I'm currently planning our camping trips for next year. We have an Outwell Montana 6 tent and I was shocked to see one of the campsites we were planning to visit considers this to be a large tent and will charge us an additional £2.50 per night on top of the £20 it's already charging for a standard pitch with EHU. This will make it more expensive than taking a caravan on the site! We are relatively novice campers having only been a few times but I think this is a total rip off - am I being tight or is this how things are and I just have to live with it?!



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25/8/2008 at 7:18pm
 Location: Hertfordshire
 Outfit: Lots of tents and a 72 VW Camper
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Stay somewhere else that is not so expensive if that is the case.  Only you can justify what you wish to spend on site fees.

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25/8/2008 at 7:31pm
 Location: London
 Outfit: Aztec Solana 3; Vango Idaho 400
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We have a Vango Idaho 400, which although full height in the awning has a comparitively small footprint and we were recently charged an addtional £2 per night on top of a fee of £16.50 per night fee for a non EHU pitch because it was considered a 'large tent'. We accepted this because it was the only site we had found with space that wasn't jamming tents in on top of each other so we satyed but it seemed very expensive to us. Maybe the answer is smaller tents or visiting not so greedy campsites, but i can't see things changing any other way

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25/8/2008 at 7:32pm
 Location: Llangennech Nr Llanelli S Wales.
 Outfit: VW Touareg & Swift Charisma 635
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Why do campers with these HUGE tents grumble when they are asked to pay for the additional room they take up?

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25/8/2008 at 8:43pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
 Outfit: Adria Win
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I wouldn't say an Idaho 400 was a huge tent. The Montana 6 isn't even that big compared to some of the bigger ones. I'm sure both of these would fit on a standard C & C C pitch.

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25/8/2008 at 9:12pm
 Location: south yorkshire
 Outfit: coachman Amara 450
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last months c&cc magazine states that a montana 6 will not be acceoted on a standard pitch if you erect the enclosed side porch, as this makes it too wide, this is a load of tosh, especially as the club had one of these tents on long term test.

the porch aparently makes the tent above 4.1 metres wide.

i wonder if the wardens enquire how wide your caravan awning is before you pitch, i cirtainly have not been asked this, when taking the caravan.

now,, my own montana 6 is a 2005 model and has'nt got the enclosed porch. so i should be ok, presumably!!

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26/8/2008 at 8:03am
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Bordercaz - you've got my point exactly. Despite Scarletsfan's comments, I really dont think our tent is that big. In fact, when we have been away, our tent is usually one of the smaller ones! I didn't know about the new "porch" rule either (we have one) which is incredibly useful for dumping wet wellies etc.

Oh well, looks like we are going to have to put up and shut up.

At this rate, it's not going to be much more expensive to check into a travelodge for a few nights!

 



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26/8/2008 at 8:20am
 Location: Llangennech Nr Llanelli S Wales.
 Outfit: VW Touareg & Swift Charisma 635
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5.3 x 5.8 is still pretty big, perhaps too big to fit on the allocated tent pitches on the site.

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26/8/2008 at 11:09am
 Location: West Wales
 Outfit: Pili Pala Pod
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size of tent = more maintenance of the grass one it is lifted = more money required = particualrly a problem with this years and last years rain fall = size owners pulling there hair out as they have had to cancel many bookings = not happy site owners - no campers and loss of business or campers - having to pay more per pitch and camping on yellowing grass or mud!!!

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27/8/2008 at 1:14pm
 Location: South Wales
 Outfit: Montana 6P & vango venture 600 dlx
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Site I've just been to classes anything over a 2 man tent as a large tent! Took the venure 600 which is 5m x 3m. Paid £17 p/n with electric and was pleased with that as the facilities were good.

I don't mind paying extra for a large tent if I get a larger pitch, but when I have done that we've been shown to an ordinary pitch, I told the warden and he found us a very large pitch which we were very happy with.



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27/8/2008 at 1:29pm
 Location: Cheltenham Gloucestershire
 Outfit: Coleman Darwin 5 Quechua 4man popup
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where was that nicola? that sounds like a good price.

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27/8/2008 at 9:35pm
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 Outfit: Bailey Senator Caravan
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C&CC pitches are 11m wide, 6m of this is the fire gap which means that if your tent is over 5m wide it is too big to fit onto a standard pitch.

If your tent is larger than the std pitch and you encroch into another pitch why should you not pay extra? The tent manufacturers make these tents and sell them at cheaper prices and don't tell unsuspecting campers that they will have difficulty getting a pitch with them and paying additional costs. I have been on sites where they charge an additional pitch fee for larger tents which is fair enough but it actually deprives another family of a holiday in some cases if larger tents are taking up 2 pitches during busy periods.

From a business point of view it is better to sell a pitch to another family as this will be a higher prices that the £2.50 additional cost that you had to pay, that is not mentioning all of the maintenance etc that has already been pointed out earlier on in this thread!

I appreciate your comment about caravans but it is very often the width rather than the length of units which causes problems on sites. Caravans are pretty much a standard width in most cases.



27/8/2008 at 10:22pm
 Location: Llangennech Nr Llanelli S Wales.
 Outfit: VW Touareg & Swift Charisma 635
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Also large caravans tend not to kill large areas of grass on the pitch.

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02/5/2009 at 3:04pm
 Location: South Wales
 Outfit: Montana 6P & vango venture 600 dlx
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julie-pooley where was that nicola? that sounds like a good price.

It was Pantglas farm in Tavernspite, nr Narbeth not too far away from Tenby.

Very nice owners and I chose there as I'd went on my own with the kids and my outlaws have a van overlooking the park. Built in babtsitters They also gave me a hand putting up the tent.

There's a bar and games room, showers etc and very nice. Ideal for site seeing too




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