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campingtons

26/6/2017 at 7:34pm
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Okay, I'm sure this is an utterly stupid question, but I'm relatively new to camping in the UK.

It's quite obvious when I search for a campsite that allows fires that I'm allowed a fire. (Shocker, right?) But where is the line drawn for camp sites that don't allow fires?

- Bottled gas stove? I'm sure that's okay.
- Portable BBQ? Probably fine
- BBQ bucket? (??) Such as: http://www.sainsburyshome.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Brights-Bucket-BBQ-£8.jpg
- Portable wood burning stove? (??) Such as https://www.solostove.com
- Elevated fire 'pit' (!!) such as http:///k9v1ly

I'm just not sure where the line is drawn.

Thanks for clarifying everyone!!

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Greg M

26/6/2017 at 8:21pm
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Hi,
I think I would be right in saying, if it says BBQ's are allowed all of the above would be acceptable on most sites provided they are raised off the grass and pose no hazards to other campers, caravans,tents etc..
Always best to check though.
Also a good idea to familiarise yourself with the fire points on a campsite.
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26/6/2017 at 10:44pm
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I think the 'no campfires' rule means no open fires, period. A gas stove isn't a fire, obviously. The portable BBQ would use charcoal, as would the BBQ bucket, so best to check if charcoal BBQs are allowed (not all sites accept them).Burn logs instead of charcoal on those appliances and it becomes an open fire, obviously. The portable woodburning stove is a closed appliance, but still best to check with the site IMHO if you intend using one. A fire pit is just that, a fire pit, so wouldn't be allowed on a site which prohibits open fires.

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Quite often these days, due to people using their BBQ's as fire pits, campsites will stipulate exactly what can and can't be used. They will say such things as BBQ's to be raised off the ground and not to be used for wood burning etc.

In case anyone thinks that is a bit harsh or petty I once ended up with a hole in the roof of my tent when somebody lit a wood fire in their BBQ a short distance away and sparks were flying in my direction. Thankfully the campsite owner saw what was happening and told them to put it out. A tiny spark on the taut roof of a polyester tent will melt a hole straight through.

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campingtons

27/6/2017 at 6:58am
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Thanks everyone! Wanted to invest in something that would give me the greatest possible uses whilst avoiding bottled gas. Think I'll start by picking some campsites I'd like to try and see what they do/don't allow and use that to inform my purchase.

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Quote: Originally posted by campingtons on 27/6/2017
Thanks everyone! Wanted to invest in something that would give me the greatest possible uses whilst avoiding bottled gas. Think I'll start by picking some campsites I'd like to try and see what they do/don't allow and use that to inform my purchase.

You could try electricity. Clean, harmless to other campers and will power heaters, cookers, lights, chargers, kettles, toasters, ovens, hobs, fridges...the list is endless. Then you can just have an ordinary off the ground BBQ...if you insist...and not a bottle of gas in sight

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For those people who want a flickering flame without the sparks and smoke, why not buy the large candle torches which stick in the ground. I once had a very enjoyable evening sat outside someone's tent who was using those candles and they give a good relaxing flickering flame. I am sure many campsites would accept those but of course you still need to ask.

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28/6/2017 at 7:25am
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 27/6
In case anyone thinks that is a bit harsh or petty I once ended up with a hole in the roof of my tent when somebody lit a wood fire in their BBQ a short distance away and sparks were flying in my direction. Thankfully the campsite owner saw what was happening and told them to put it out. A tiny spark on the taut roof of a polyester tent will melt a hole straight through.

We once had a Cabanon Elzas ruined in just the same way: sparks from someone's fire pit made tiny holes in the coated PVC roof and side window and mesh. They'd packed up and gone by the time we realised. Tent ruined.

I know people like campfires, just think they should be well away from other campers who don't want the risk (or the pong!).

campingtons

28/6/2017 at 1:51pm
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