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Topic: Hacked off

twocattitudesnorth

08/8/2020 at 12:18am
Location: Tyne & Wear
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Hi All. Can I just sound off please? We’re on a seasonal pitch in North Yorkshire , and have been for 2 years. Tonight we turned up to find the owner is applying for planning permission to turn the nicest seasonal pitches into static pitches leaving the seasonals squished onto another field. We have been looking for a new van as ours is ancient to be fair but I guess we just dreamt it would all still be here where we love. Anyway feel really hacked off as we all know that financially it makes no sense to buy a newer Van to put here [or elsewhere). We hate dragging them about and for the hassle could hire one. Just feeling that our hand has been dealt now. Anyone want a well loved17 year old van with an amazing awning....!

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franbee

08/8/2020 at 8:43am
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They haven't got the planning permission yet, so you may get a couple more years.

marg6

08/8/2020 at 9:32am
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which site are you talking about? or at least the nearest town if you dont want to name the site

Fiona W

via mobile 08/8/2020 at 10:11am
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It’s frustrating when familiar situation is changed. Several Forest Holiday campsites we used to go to went over to timber chalets. The one on Loch Long near Arrochar was a cracking campsite, everyone had a view of water & mountains. What’s frustrating is driving by & seeing so few chalets with a car there now when the campsite was usually full. The C&CC site at Scone changed one area over to statics; last time we were there, the campsite was rammed full & every static was empty.
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sennen26

via mobile 08/8/2020 at 11:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 08/8/2020
It’s frustrating when familiar situation is changed. Several Forest Holiday campsites we used to go to went over to timber chalets. The one on Loch Long near Arrochar was a cracking campsite, everyone had a view of water & mountains. What’s frustrating is driving by & seeing so few chalets with a car there now when the campsite was usually full. The C&CC site at Scone changed one area over to statics; last time we were there, the campsite was rammed full & every static was empty.
Hopefully things work out ok in the end for you, one way or another.

I know what you mean by empty stactics but the sites don't care if they are empty as most of them have had they fees paid in advance in fact if they are empty they make more money as no one is using the facilities.

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birder99

09/8/2020 at 8:54am
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The sad fact is that they can make more money for less work with statics. Not only do they have a guaranteed income from the site fee, they also limit the age of the statics and make a massive profit when selling new ones. If the statics are plumbed into water and sewage they can then also close the toilet blocks and therefore have less work to do. The same goes for grounds maintenance around the statics when the owners tend their own areas but still have to purchase any decking etc via the site owners who take a commission. I've seen it on sites where I have worked in the past where the site owner also sees it as a way of reducing staffing levels. Its not good for camping and tourers and tends to finish up with sites that are very cliquey without that dynamic feel that a touring site has.

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Riff

11/8/2020 at 9:04pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 08/8/2020
It’s frustrating when familiar situation is changed. Several Forest Holiday campsites we used to go to went over to timber chalets. The one on Loch Long near Arrochar was a cracking campsite, everyone had a view of water & mountains. What’s frustrating is driving by & seeing so few chalets with a car there now when the campsite was usually full. The C&CC site at Scone changed one area over to statics; last time we were there, the campsite was rammed full & every static was empty.
Hopefully things work out ok in the end for you, one way or another.

Likewise, Keswick C&CC site used to be quite "tent friendly" when we first started going there (and the reason why we joined the club in the first place).

But now a number of the lakeside tent pitches are now hard standings and if you don't need an EHU, they stick you on The Island. The Island is 1/4 mile (i.e. a 1/2 mile round trip) from the toilet block which is quite a trek if you need to use the loo or shower.

We no longer use that site as they treat tents with contempt.

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ficklejade

11/8/2020 at 11:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Riff on 11/8/2020

Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 08/8/2020
It’s frustrating when familiar situation is changed. Several Forest Holiday campsites we used to go to went over to timber chalets. The one on Loch Long near Arrochar was a cracking campsite, everyone had a view of water & mountains. What’s frustrating is driving by & seeing so few chalets with a car there now when the campsite was usually full. The C&CC site at Scone changed one area over to statics; last time we were there, the campsite was rammed full & every static was empty.
Hopefully things work out ok in the end for you, one way or another.

Likewise, Keswick C&CC site used to be quite "tent friendly" when we first started going there (and the reason why we joined the club in the first place).

But now a number of the lakeside tent pitches are now hard standings and if you don't need an EHU, they stick you on The Island. The Island is 1/4 mile (i.e. a 1/2 mile round trip) from the toilet block which is quite a trek if you need to use the loo or shower.

We no longer use that site as they treat tents with contempt.

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I regret I have to agree with you as a tenter - solo with a small tent. There are some CCC sites where you feel you're a nuisance - been feeling this for about four years.

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spiritburner

11/8/2020 at 11:29pm
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The site in Keswick is why I'm no longer a member, despite an apology from the club & vouchers.

Riff

12/8/2020 at 11:57am
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Looks like I'm far from alone, then. Plus there's the ridiculous "3 night minimum" rule. Not all of us are retired and still have this limitation called - annual leave!

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twocattitudesnorth

25/8/2020 at 9:39pm
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Thanks for your replies. I was at the site yesterday in the glorious sunshine and it was like a ghost town! The seasonal vans had a couple of people kicking about then there were 7 kids visible across the whole site. It’s tragic when there’s so many people who have been looking for pitches this summer for the odd night camping or caravanning. Sadly there was just row after row of empty statics.......

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Colin21

26/8/2020 at 10:11am
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Unfortunately, statics is where the big money is made by sites these days. Money up front, and guaranteed, as you can't just up sticks and move on, and they make again when you leave. If a static is left empty that is the owner's problem, the site has their money anyway. Not good for us though when good touring sites go over to statics.

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alan29

26/8/2020 at 10:23am
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Im on a seasonal pitch which is dragging its heels over refunding the part of the annual fee that we couldnt use during lockdown.
This has reminded me that site owners are driven by their desire to make money and little else. Customers are cash cows. "Put up and shut up" seems to be the attitude. Customer services form the 1700s.

Mitchamitri

26/8/2020 at 2:02pm
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Anyone would think these campsites are run as businesses. Shocking.

Colin21

26/8/2020 at 2:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by alan29 on 26/8/2020
Im on a seasonal pitch which is dragging its heels over refunding the part of the annual fee that we couldnt use during lockdown.
This has reminded me that site owners are driven by their desire to make money and little else. Customers are cash cows. "Put up and shut up" seems to be the attitude. Customer services form the 1700s.

The site would probably argue that your caravan was still there taking up a space, whether you were using it or not. One of the reasons why I wouldn't have a seasonal pitch, although I can see why they can be attractive. I'm not sure the site would be under any legal obligation to refund anything unless you removed the caravan for the period you were not using it.

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