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21/6/2021 at 5:32pm
 Location: London
 Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Quote: Originally posted by chrisandsandra on 21/6/2021
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In both cases the sites were quite easy going and did not insist in being parked in any particular way so long as your outfit fitted on your pitch and distancing was maintained but perhaps campsite owners should give a bit more thought, given the amount of new campers as a result of Covid, to make sure that campers understand exactly where their pitch starts and ends and not relying on people having 'common sense'.



And sadly when the sites do make an effort to ensure everyone pitches correctly, as in CAMC club using pitch marker/alignment posts with specific instruction as to how to locate your unit/awning/car in relation to the marker post, then they come in for some quite harsh criticism (a couple of people on this forum alone are very anti!) for being too draconian and regimented! The sites can't win!

Personally I'm in favour of the system, it leaves no room for doubt and no room to argue about how to pitch, it maintains the fire gap and personal pitch space, it doesn't stop you being nose or tail in to match your habitation door/awning side, it just works in everybody's favour, it's unobtrusive and simple to understand. As to leading to too regimented a site layout, it's no worse than a van wide hard standing/adjacent grass awning space for forcing your positioning, and I know CAMC sites that have a very higgledy piggaldy visual layout that use the posts to ensure correct positioning without causing regimented rows.

It seems that the days of common sense being the norm have long gone, control and instruction are necessary to counter chaos.


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21/6/2021 at 6:39pm
 Location: Derby.
 Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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Quote: Originally posted by Rutland Belle on 21/6/2021
Blacklisting is an excellent idea.



It doesn't need to even be an official blacklist...
A former site owner (now retired) told us he saved all his customer's contact details in his mobile when they call to book first time. By the time they leave, he alters their surname to a double-barrelled "Smith-Yes", or "Smith-No"!

When they call again to re-visit, (and their name pops up on screen), the latter then get a "So sorry, we have no availability for those dates"!   

To be fair, the fact that the site only had 11 pitches probably helped, and made the full sign more believable!

Yours sincerely,
Mr Mucker-Yes


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21/6/2021 at 9:29pm
 Location: East Herts
 Outfit: 1992 Elddis Wisp 450CT + X Trail
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 21/6/2021
And sadly when the sites do make an effort to ensure everyone pitches correctly, as in CAMC club using pitch marker/alignment posts with specific instruction as to how to locate your unit/awning/car in relation to the marker post, then they come in for some quite harsh criticism (a couple of people on this forum alone are very anti!) for being too draconian and regimented! The sites can't win!

Personally I'm in favour of the system, it leaves no room for doubt and no room to argue about how to pitch, it maintains the fire gap and personal pitch space, it doesn't stop you being nose or tail in to match your habitation door/awning side, it just works in everybody's favour, it's unobtrusive and simple to understand. As to leading to too regimented a site layout, it's no worse than a van wide hard standing/adjacent grass awning space for forcing your positioning, and I know CAMC sites that have a very higgledy piggaldy visual layout that use the posts to ensure correct positioning without causing regimented rows.

It seems that the days of common sense being the norm have long gone, control and instruction are necessary to counter chaos.



You do make a good point there about pitch markers Monty15 and I take your point. It does make sense when pitches are all in rows to have some way to determine where one pitch ends and another begins. I don't criticise the sites for adopting this strategy, I just avoid them where possible, as I don't like sites where pitches are all in rows. I prefer sites where pitches are large enough that it doesn't matter which way round you set up. On one such site, a CS near Tenby, even when the site was temporarily full, the nearest caravan to us was probably over 15 metres away. The only instruction was to pitch near the electricity post, and the posts were probably 20 - 25 metres apart at the very least. That was definitely our kind of site.


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