Quote: Originally posted by sunjor on 02/7/2021
I do wonder how some people ever leave home they seem so lacking in common sense and very risk averse, life is a risk from the day you are born and meant for living, lets all get on with the living part.
Some of us stay home because we have common sense and are totally risk averse. There are risks in life from the day you are born but if you don't want to fall off a mountain you don't have to climb one!
Quite so Bob, I would say that is total common sense. Yes there are risks in everyday life, but some risks are necessary and others are totally unnecessary. Why take unnecessary risks? Life is indeed for living and I have no problem with that. It's dying I have a problem with.
Yes, you won't die jumping out of a plane without a parachute, but you might when you hit the ground...now that's common sense
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I don't rely on any rules or policies as is noted a lot of folk don't adhere to them. I use my own judgement and common sense. If a shop or restaurant or other establishment looks too busy I don't go in. I keep my distance as far as I can from others, wash my hands, wear a mask where I should and sanitise. I've been double jabbed. I reckon I do what I can and understand that there will always be risks. But I don't want to be locked up. It is a fine balancing act.
Quote: Originally posted by feeblecat on 03/7/2021
I don't rely on any rules or policies as is noted a lot of folk don't adhere to them. I use my own judgement and common sense. If a shop or restaurant or other establishment looks too busy I don't go in. I keep my distance as far as I can from others, wash my hands, wear a mask where I should and sanitise. I've been double jabbed. I reckon I do what I can and understand that there will always be risks. But I don't want to be locked up. It is a fine balancing act.
Absolutely. I have tended to go beyond the rules rather than looking for ways to bend them. I don't like crowded places at the best of times so I certainly avoid them now. I have been double-jabbed, second one back in April, and I accept there will always be risks, but I don't tend to push my luck.
Has anyone actually been locked up? In my experience enforcement has been somewhere between extremely lax and non-existent. Looking around my area it would be difficult to tell there was anything different to 2018.
Why worry about whether sites have Covid restrictions in place? We are on holiday and sometimes have a meal out. When the barman pours the drink he is holding the beer glass at the top. He then lifts it with his bare hands to place on the tray. The waiter brings the glasses on a tray and then use their hands to lift the glass off the tray to put onto the table. Same happens with food etc.
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 03/7/2021
Why worry about whether sites have Covid restrictions in place? We are on holiday and sometimes have a meal out. When the barman pours the drink he is holding the beer glass at the top. He then lifts it with his bare hands to place on the tray. The waiter brings the glasses on a tray and then use their hands to lift the glass off the tray to put onto the table. Same happens with food etc.
I would say that the risks from the barman or waiter are fairly minimal although of course not non-existent. We still have milk delivered by a milkman, who has to take the bottles from his float and carry them to our doorstep. The postman has to handle our mail and if we go in a shop or any other business premises we have to touch the door handle. I would say that risks such as those are acceptable, but I still wouldn't go in anywhere that is crowded, like a small shop packed full of people, or a lift, or even on a crowded bus. If it couldn't be avoided I would always wear a mask and sanitise my hands afterwards. During the worst of the pandemic we hardly set foot outside the house, but someone still had to pick up the mail and bring the milk in. It's all a question of degrees, but the virus won't avoid us because we are on holiday.
The evidence is that the virus is spread by aerosols (very fine droplets) in the air, in enclosed less well ventilated indoor spaces. I don’t think surfaces are now considered a significant transmission (who still washes their carrier bags in a bleach solution?) - but good hand hygiene has reduced other problems like food poisoning.
We have to learn to live with Covid, like flu and measles. Until everyone is double vaccinated, I may continue to double mask indoors for my own peace of mind.
But what really saddens me is that some people are now too frightened to hug. We humans need touch. That first hug with a good friend last week was so heartwarming, we couldn’t stop laughing. And that felt good.
Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 04/7/2021
The evidence is that the virus is spread by aerosols (very fine droplets) in the air, in enclosed less well ventilated indoor spaces. I don’t think surfaces are now considered a significant transmission (who still washes their carrier bags in a bleach solution?) - but good hand hygiene has reduced other problems like food poisoning.
We have to learn to live with Covid, like flu and measles. Until everyone is double vaccinated, I may continue to double mask indoors for my own peace of mind.
But what really saddens me is that some people are now too frightened to hug. We humans need touch. That first hug with a good friend last week was so heartwarming, we couldn’t stop laughing. And that felt good.
Yes I think that's right Fiona, transmission by contact with surfaces probably presents very minimal risk, it's transmission through droplets that is probably the biggest one. This is why I always wear a mask when going into an enclosed space with other people. I don't like crowded places anyway, but then I never did, nothing to do with Covid.
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One thing that has really stuck in my craw re masks is the non compliance in supermarkets.
Over here in France there are quite simply no exceptions, you don’t see anyone in any establishment without a mask on.
I’m glad to hear though that the mask thing, will at some point in the near future, be left up to the individual.
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 04/7/2021
One thing that has really stuck in my craw re masks is the non compliance in supermarkets.
Over here in France there are quite simply no exceptions, you don’t see anyone in any establishment without a mask on.
I’m glad to hear though that the mask thing, will at some point in the near future, be left up to the individual.
Yes that annoys me too, and is the reason why we have had most of our groceries delivered since it all began. By allowing "exceptions" it introduced a loop-hole and reduced clarity. In my opinion there should be no exceptions at all. No mask, no entry! If for some reason you CANNOT (not will not) wear a mask, then you get someone else to go in for you. That way those who have just decided they don't want to wear one will have no excuses. It's hard, but the problem is not just the lack of clarity, but the simple fact that those who are genuinely exempted can still carry it and spread it. Even if they have no symptoms.