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I was going to comment........but whats the point? doesnt matter who says what its never going to be agreed upon. And its not just smokers who are being refused treatment, its fat people like myself as well! Lose weight or dont have the op......thanks!!! hasnt happend to me yet but Im sure it will!!

Oh dear................I did say I wasnt going to comment, didnt I!!!

As a pair of fat so called people myself or the wife haven't been refused any treatment  yet. We are told lose iweight,  its no good for you. My wife lost 11 stone, went down 6 stone but, the pains didnt go the heart trouble didnt go in fact she was very ill trying to lose weight and had gastroplasty to lose it. So, why do they blame it all on being obbese or your smoking. Thin or fat I'm happy,so is my wife. We smoke, its our life if we choose to do these things no one has the right to tell us any different.  Same as excessive drinking, we are teetotal and dislike people who binge drink but we would not decry anyone for drinking in moderation.

It's our lives no one elses.

Frank & Kathy

Post last edited on 17/09/2005 10:04:41

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I'm a non smoker - I don't like the smell of smoke.......

But I really do find it difficult to understand how a small group of people smoking in the open air 6 feet away from a caravan could cause distress to anyone in the caravan - smoke rises and dissipates very quickly.   I suspect that the talking from these people was actually more disturbing than the smoke!!!

I really do not see any need to segregate smokers from non-smokers in an open environment such as a camp site.    Yes - ban smoking from toilet and shower blocks as many sites already do, but not in the open air......     The solution lays in tolerance and responsibility - not in division.

There will be something that every anti smoking person does that I find mildly irritating (that's the nature of human diversity) but when we find each other on the same camp site we show tolerance - why should smoking be any different???

Quote: Originally posted by Webmaster on 16/09/2005

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Well said Fruitboy.

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I do get somat right then - *GiGGLe*

dont mind smokers outside in the open air as long as they are offending no one with it after all its their body they are killing

oh how many a day for you then ian ? It was 30 kingsize for me--till I packed it in, and realised how daft it was.

I agree with TC01.

Not bothered about the tax issue though as I have not bought cigarettes in England for about 5 years, always get foreign.