Just returned from Ardmair site in Ullapool which has as all the reviews indicate the most wonderful scenery and views. All pitches on the loch side with stunning views however they were really cramped. Our awning was only six feet from the van next to us. I thought there was supposed to be 20 feet between units. Is this twenty feet between awning and caravan or twenty feet between the centres of units?
Another point to note if you are visiting this site, they do not give refunds. Even though our dog was taken seriously ill and we chose to leave a day early we were told that no refunds could be made. In truth whe we were shown there were several signs around stating no refunds, pity they weren't pointed out so clearly when we booked. My suggestion is book by the day if you visit this site unless absolutely clear you won't want to change your mind for any reason.
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The 20ft rule applys on CCC sites and is judged from the centre to centre of the units not any awnings which may be erected. Private sites can make their own rules up usualy to pack as many in as possible, but still not as bad as in Spain where some units are literaly feet apart, apart from lack of privacy you shudder to think if a fire broke out. kiev
Is there no set rules for commercial sites then Kiev?? As you say, it'd be dodgy if there was an emergency wouldn't it. It'll be interesting to watch this thread to see if someone comes up with any different rules.
BB
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Quote: Originally posted by kiev on 27/8/2006...but still not as bad as in Spain where some units are literaly feet apart, apart from lack of privacy you shudder to think if a fire broke out... kiev
I remember twenty odd years ago, a caravan caught fire on a site near Frejus in France. The French grabbed their kids & pets, then retreated to the terrace of the bar to await the 'Sapeurs Pompiers' and watch the fun... The English on the other hand were dodging the flames, desperately trying to pull their beloved caravans from the impending doom!...
No one was hurt, one van was destroyed and a few more got 'singed' and the firemen got a round of applause at the end, from the French campers who stood watching the impromptu entertainment, with beer in hand...
I hope that your dog is o.k., but I'm not sure why the site should offer a refund. It's no different to any other scenario where, for whatever reason, a holiday has to be curtailed. Hence travel insurance.
Some sites, hotels or tour operators may offer to give a refund but I'd think that it would be the exception, rather than the norm.
Quote: Originally posted by Basilbrush on 27/8/2006
Is there no set rules for commercial sites then Kiev?? As you say, it'd be dodgy if there was an emergency wouldn't it. It'll be interesting to watch this thread to see if someone comes up with any different rules.
BB
Hi BB, all sites are licensed by the local authority, which should sitpulate some kind of minimum for safety reasons as a condition of the license, but I doubt that it gets minitored other than by users complaining to the local authority concerned if pitches are too close together. You could ask the local authority concerend what its conditions are for the site in question.
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I think the sites should have to display whatever are the conditions of their license, i.e the number of pitches. If this was common practice the customers would then know if the sites were legal or not. This would help the local authorities to monitor, if you knew there were twice as many units on a site you could then report them and shame them on here.
I assume it's the Ardmair Point site you mean? If so, I think it's licensed for 45 pitches. Unless you went around counting, I guess you wouldn't know if they were exceeding this.
Caravans should be 6 metres apart, this condition comes from the model conditions set on the caravan site licence, which is controlled and set by the local authority, an awning can protrude into this space but there must be still 3 metres between units. It is also a condition that sites display their licence and it's associated conditions. If they don't or you are concerned you should address your concerns to the local authority in the area.
Stackridge understand your comment and agree to a certain extent. My real issue was the alcrity that they pointed out signs round the office when I asked for a refund but they didn't point this out when we booked in. Whilst the rules governing space are essential for safety reasons, thankfully fires are an infrequent occurence. Being stuck right on top of your neighbours is intrusive and disconcerting.
This was an infrequent foray onto a commercial site which emphasises how well run caravan club sites are.
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Is that the actual caravan being 6 metres apart? If you have an awning about 2.5 metres deep you are going to be about 6/7ft away from the next caravan. We have just come back from rosedale abbey and they were about 6ft apart if you included the awning. Didn't bother us had a lovely time and the site is really good now they have built 2 new shower blocks. We took our neighbours children and all they wanted to do was play in the play area and paddle in the stream in their wellies! As for refunds- Rosedale didn't give refunds either we had to leave a day early for work committments- we just accepted it! It was in the terms and conditions of the booking form.