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Subject Topic: putting up a tent on shingle bech ? Post Reply Post New Topic
PersonEldorado
08/10/2010 at 3:26pm
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I am hoping to do some canoe camping in Scotland and will potentially need to be able to pitch a tent on shingle shoreline - so nothing to knock pegs into

any suggestions or advice

looking at maybe a Vango Halo right now as it is semigeodesic so should be self supporting but I suspect the priciples are the same whatever the tent


PersonB Chrystie
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I'd have thought that anything dome-like that goes up flysheet first with the poles threaded through should be self-supporting enough.


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Sorry to butt in - Eldorado, could I have your e-mail? Or if not I'll put mine on briefly!

Cheers

Edited to say - don't worry if you no longer require my tent! Sorry not been around, and I can't face going through all the posts to see if you've posted.



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PersonEldorado
08/10/2010 at 9:01pm
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hello splendidisolation

moonmummy said you had been a way a while to the Sciliy isles etc - hope it was good

Absolutely still interested in discussing a ridge tent trade with you

best contact is
hotmail
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Thanks, will email.


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Personmoonmummy
09/10/2010 at 12:46am
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Hello Splendid, we are interested too


Personhappybonzo
09/10/2010 at 10:10am
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Take some small strong stuff sacks with you and then bury them just leaving enough space to able to tie off guy lines to them. Snow anchors work well on sand but are a waste of space on shingle.

A free standing geodesic tent helps a lot. I use a Quasar and have never regretted the expense


PersonLobeyDosser
09/10/2010 at 3:06pm
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canoe-Boys-First-Scottish-Journey/dp/1903238994

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blazing-Paddles-Scottish-Coastal-Odyssey/dp/0953276805

These two books are a must for anyone contemplating a canoe tour in Scotland.

As for beach camping, most shingle beaches will have a reasonably flat grassy area above the high tide mark that is suitable for pitching a tent.

Even on beaches where there is agricultural and fenced land right down to the beach, there is usually 10 or 20 feet of grass area before the fence line.



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Personsuperpup
11/10/2010 at 2:33pm
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eldorado. carrier bags filled with pebbles can be usful . peg guys tied to them. plus. four bags of sand or pebbles in each corner of tent. worked for me many years ago

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PersonEldorado
14/10/2010 at 11:20pm
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lobeydosser, suspect you will be right but it is a bit of an unknown for me and I dint want to get there under equipped, or at least under-bodgable

thanks superpup, like your thinking

I am sure we will have some suitable bags in the kit when we pack but if not I will add a few decent bin liners or carriers

as we will have a weighty canoe with us I can tie one side of the tent to that. And I will also be packing a roll of paracord to make best use of any nearby features. And a DD tarp if the tent is unpitchable

this is starting to sound like it could be fun rather than a difficulty


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PersonGreenDave
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Free-standing geodesic if there's no wind. Robens Fortress is ideal.  Use bags of pebbles for the guys if it's breezy.


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15/10/2010 at 11:27am
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eldorado.. may i ask when you are going. and if it will be winter time. as i want to start doing some winter camping. beginning end of november. i have all the gear. but my tent is a quechua 3 man pop up. double skin though. so i think it will be warm enough. i would like to do the west coast of scotland. if it is the west coast your are going to. it seems most people do go there for the scenery. and the villages and bars. i dont have a canoe. but would be happy doing some fishing from the beach. and keep an eye on the tents. you dont actualy say when you are going. or what part of scotland. but arisaig is a good area to go to.

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PersonEldorado
05/11/2010 at 7:45pm
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hi superpup, not been here for a while hence slow
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the initial plans are the Spey and then maybe Great Glen west to east - now looks like it will be spring time. We paddle Open Canoes not sea kayaks so inland waters for us

We hope to pack up and move on each day, but if the wind is severe that would keep us stuck. The Spey offers proper campsites along the route so it is a good one to learn what kit we need and can carry in a canoe

I do plan to some winter camping again this year, but not in Scotland (the Peak District is just down the road for me). For a first few goes somewhere local is a good idea, if the weather is real nasty you can head home (but then I never could sleep in a car)

Your tent is probably fine but dont forget good insulation/mats/sleeping bags and keeping kit dry for bed time - good luck


Personsuperpup
05/11/2010 at 7:51pm
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yeah i got the ground part sorted. i dont mind the cold. i can take that ok. but i have just torn a muscle in my back. so its gonna be a bit harded this year. but i aim to go anyways. hail rain or shine. but i think it will be further down south. warmer there.

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