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02/1/2011 at 5:43pm
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Sorry not familiar with the Robens or Vango, but if your looking at other contenders, I use a Terra Nova LaserLite Tent for backpacking (1.2Kg!), and a Hilleberg Nallo 2 GT tent (2.5kg) for cycle camping, sleeping bag is a SnugPak Merlin Softee, with optional Expanda Panel, and just in case I have the SnugPak Silk liner, although it has never go cold enough to use the liner. been using said kit for around six years, can't fault it.
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12/2/2011 at 11:03am
Location: Weegieland Scotland Outfit: SunValley 8
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Hi
My DofE group has a couple of Robens Voyagers. The build quality of the tents is pretty good, as the young trekkers have not succeeded in wrecking either one over the last four seasons.
However, we find these tents really difficult to pitch properly. Every time they have an outing, they end up looking like something that The Hulk has jumped up and down on. This is not solely down to impatience or inexperience on the part of the Young Campers, as they manage to pitch our Vaude and Vango, etc., tents so that they at least look like tents, and not at all like crumpled plastic bags nailed to the ground.
If you're at all hamfisted, I'd be wary about buying a Robens Voyager.
Z
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12/2/2011 at 1:16pm
Location: Otley Outfit: Terra Nova Laser Com
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Maybe have a look at the other Vango down bags? Viper 750 is -3*C comfort with a weight of 1500g. Viper 500 is about 400g lighter for 0*C comfort. Venom 400 is 500g lighter for 3*C comfort. The latter is probably OK, in fact probably better, for April/September with a silk liner (which you can get at good prices on eBay). A -3*C bag is going to be too warm and opened up a lot between April and September.
Do check specifications though because Vango mess around with them and clearance items may have different specs.
Thinking ahead, if you really get into it and go 4-season, you would probably want two bags for year-round use. In that case, a lighter (and probably cheaper) summer bag for warmer weather is a better companion for a winter bag, e.g. from Alpkit.
------------- Richard
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