Not tried them but they get good reviews in climbing circles. I had looked at the numo but it isn't insulated and they don't ise R ratings so a bit hard to work out. It is probably only a 1.3. if you need a warmer mat you need to look at vaude, klymit, exped and thermarest. An insulated air mattress is like the numo but has down or artificial fibres inside. They will give you an R value of about 4. The downside is that the insulation can get mouldy after a few years of blowing up. The solution is to use a pump or pump bag.
Decathlon do an almost identical mat to the numo.
I prefer air mats like the numo for backpacking as they pack small and light. However if they burst then you get no comfort or insulation. A sim will still insulate if it leaks and a basic karrimat doesn't burst. You get peak comfort from an air mattress though.
I am currently researching replacements for our vaude norrskens. They have given about five years of service but have gone mouldy. They kept me war in the snow...
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Therma rest sim everytime for me. Can be a bit bulkier than some of the lightweight air mattresses in all their variations.
My main reason as Ewen mentioned regarding worse case scenario if it leaks you still have a decent barrier between you and the ground.
The other reason is the real no quibble lifetime warranty.
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Quote: Originally posted by uktrucker on 03/2/2019
Ewan,
Was looking at them as a light weight alternative to the Therm-a-Rest Luxury Map that I have, which are very very good.
Am aiming to reduce kit weight for summer wild camping ideal weight without food and water would be about 18kgs
They would be ok for summer. Last year we had 20kg packs for France including food and water. We will probably be able to shave off at least a kilo each with the smaller tent and less clothes for Sweden.
As I do a lot of high camps a non-insulated mat isn't really worth my while. A sim is also out the window due to bulk and weight. I am looking at downmats or synmats or one of the newer vaude air mats. I will also be using a pump bag or a small battery pump like the thermarest one as the moisture in the breathe eventually kills the mats and I don't want to be blowing into a mat full of spores.
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Vango Force 10 mk3
Vango F10 Helium 1
Coleman Cobra Pro 3
Coleman Cobra 2
Naturehike Star River 2
Eureka! Solitaire
Dutch army goretex bivvy bag
Equipment wise faultless absolutely totally faultless , you won’t go wrong the only area I find problems with is they’re clothing lines as they’re sizes are very small and on the skinny side , I’m an xl in jackets , t-shirts and tops but an Alpkit xl is more like a medium elsewhere and as I’ve said the clothes are cut to shape for the skinny fit amongst us so forget it if your over 11st you’ll feel as if you’ve been shrink wrapped
We have a whole load of Alpkit stuff. Clothing from casual zip up tops to down and synthetic jackets, and the thicker polygene treated tops I run in daily in the winter months. I also use their Mernio underwear for walking - it's the only thing I've found that has never chaffed.
I've found the fit of their clothes good - I'm a tall skinnyish runner type though. I get medium size from them and it fits well. The arms aren't too short as can be the case with some medium fits.
We also have a lot of their camping stuff. We have an Ordos 3 which is a great lightweight 3 person (2+ gear) tent at only 1.8kg, though the inner tent mesh is a little fragile. We also use their cloud base and cloud cover for warmer weather sleeping. Pad and quilt combined under 900g is nice and light. Have had this out in ~5c in October and still been (just about) warm enough.
Also have a load of their Ti cookware and a stove that we've had no issues with.
I've always found them to be a great company to deal with too. Returns have never been a hassle.
Can't comment on their equipment, but we are delighted with our Down Jackets, which we got from them maybe 4 or 5 years ago now(?)
I remember they wouldn't agree to "a deal" despite me buying two, plus two stuff sacks to go with them, (none of which were cheap!) but quality-wise, I'd definitely consider using them again. (I was in-store, paying cash).
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