Ebay & PayPal have gone down in their standards over the years and although I still use both, I use only for relatively low-cost sales. The fee's are becoming extortionate - approx £89 would have been charged if I'd sold our trailer tent through ebay a few years ago; actually sold via a listing on this sites classifieds.
While I've never had a dispute (luckily it seems), I always observe my personal guides:
Goods posted by recorded delivery only
Check postal address on Royal Mail website
Never rely on Paypal generated email to confirm payment, check account fully
I use ebay a bit for selling and always send items recorded signed for (no matter how small the item). If its too big for royal mail, then it goes by courier (use parcels 2 go who use a variety of couriers but mainly DHL) and it is trackable then.
I would never send anything without tracking as I have been caught out with this in the past. If you can prove via a signature that the item has been received then paypal will not refund the money to the buyer. If you cannot prove this then I'm afraid they do.
I agree with the rip off fees. I have just sold something which was £53 including p&p. As buyer paid via paypal on credit card I got hit for £2.00 fees for this plus ebay final value fees. I don't see why I should pay a buyer's credit card fees.
I had a dispute with a small company after paying by paypal (not ebay). I did not receive the goods. Paypal believed me but couldn't refund as the seller had emptied the Paypal account quickly. After several weeks of wrangling the goods were delivered to me.
Jamis you did the right thing waiting for the money to show. Would you have been OK if you'd removed the money immediately?
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If the buyer opened a dispute for INR did paypal not contact you first before refunding asking for proof of delivery? paypal will not just refund without the dispute being escalated to a claim and allowing you to put your comments in first. What form of proof of delivery do you have?
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i used ebay to sell a camera which sold and ebay charged in total £47 for an item with a sale value of £350. What a joke they used to be good on their fees but this is a joke. buyer did not pay i was charged final value fee as above and still had to relist item. logged a complaint, they agreed to credit the FVF but only as a credit to use in the future not a refund.
How rude as i paid but they cant refund. Never using again.
Hope you get your money back. its wrong just to remove the funds without auth.
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I have to slightly disagree as i use paypal as much as possible.
If you follow the guidelines set out from ebay youll be safe
the one that springs to mind is always send anything recorded/sign for that way if buyer claims item not received you just send payal the tracking number,some buyers look out for seller that are not sending recorded just so they can claim an item not received.
however paypal will only hold the profitable funds so yes the buyer will get £60 but paypal will only stop the amount you received from them ie £60 less there charges
We had a similar problem with Ebay/Paypal.....we sold tent got money, seller complained it was dirty (it was very clean when sold) he asked for postage refund (about £20) we refused so they put it in dispute, Paypal told them to return goods for full refund, we heard nothing, after a while the time was up and case dropped, we had to pay nothing as goods were not returned, so please beware of ebay buyers asking for refund on postage, if we have any probs with buyers now we refuse postage refund and ask them to return goods for a full refund....that rarely happen as getting a postage refund is a way of getting the goods even cheaper, we now state only full refunds on return of goods.
Beware of another scam where the buyer returns the item for a refund, They send back a box/package etc using recorded/signed for, you duly sign for it and then open it to find nothing or the wrong item in the box. The buyer has a signature to prove they've returned 'a item' and paypal accept it as returned and pay out, you cant prove it was the wrong item. ALWAYS open the package before signing, if it's not right or damaged dont sign, the delivery man may get a mardy on but make them wait it's your money.
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