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03/2/2011 at 3:41pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: 5M Bell Outwel WL5 Rosas Q Base II
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Hi, have read lots of posts about trailers with interest. Am a Wolf Lake Owner, have a WV GOlf Estate and have a roofbox. But I just can't cram eveyrthing in and passengers be comfortable, so on the look out for a trailer.
I am hoping I can get a trailer that I can store my camping gear in all winter long - is this possible to do without damaging camping gear (damp, condensation etc?).
I had originally thought of a trailer (possibly an ERDE 122 with a hard top lid) ... but am now thinking of a Ifor William Box Trailer. Money is a consideration but I'm hoping to only do such a purchase once and for it to last me 10 years or so, so am willing to buy as good as I can to get what we need.
I'd appreciate any advice on Winter Storage of Camping Gear in Trailer/ Box Trailer ... as well as general views of which to buy. Thanks!
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03/2/2011 at 3:57pm
Location: Derby Outfit: Bailey Pegasus II Milan & Honda CR-V
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All my gear, including the Bear Lake and weekend tents, are left in the Ifor box trailer, which is stored in the garage, over the winter period. Not had any problems with damp or condensation within the trailer so far, touches wood... They aren't cheap, but they hold their value, and what's more, allow you to take so much stuff that the car is left empty for the journey. Also doubles up as a "shed" at the back of the tent whilst onsite. It's lockable, so the Cobb, daughters bike, my scrumpy etc can all be locked away safely. I had a daxara 147 previous to the box trailer, with a roof box attached to the top. Also recommended as it saved attaching the roof box to the car, but, made it difficult to lift the lid of the trailer when the roof box wasn't empty. I don't regret the expense spent on the box trailer. Hope this helps...
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04/2/2011 at 9:43am
Location: Derby Outfit: Bailey Pegasus II Milan & Honda CR-V
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I keep it simple, I leave the tent plus poles, pegs etc at the back of the trailer (next to the roller doors), with our luggage underneath. First thing out, last thing back in. No shelves. But I have "borrowed" some large plastic removal crates from work which I store everything in... Crockery just comes out in one box, another for pans etc, another for the hookup, lights etc... These just stack on top of each other in the trailer... As far as the doors are concerned... Not got a clue... I find the rollers useful, but noisy... Probably need some WD40... Wonder if doors would make using the "shed" a quieter process when on a campsite... Also I believe the door trailer can have a roof box fitted to the top? I got mine second hand, but in perfect nick, off ebay for £925... A high price to pay for second hand, but it is in really good condition, and I got £400 for my Daxara and roof box.... Why worry about having the doors broken into? Unlikely to happen on a campsite - your tent doesn't have roller doors and is probably worth more than the trailer! Unless you are storing it outside at home, where a thief may have more opportunity to break into it... There are a lot of second hand vans on ebay around the £600 mark...
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05/2/2011 at 3:25pm
Location: Derbyshire Outfit: ElddisAvante462 Honda CRV SE2.2 i-Dtec
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Just to add that whatever trailer you own please ensure its correctly maintained and the tyres kept at the right pressures and in good condition and never overload it above its max permissable weight
I say this after a accident occured near my home about 2 yrs ago, where a trailer became de-hitched from the towcar and ended up mounting the pavement, hitting a 4yr old boy and his mother as they walked to school. sadly the little boy died later that day in hospital from his injuries, caused by being hit by the runaway trailer.
Also to add, its well worth paying the bit extra to have a jockey wheel fitted if you have to manouver a loaded trailer around on your drive, or to dehitch should you get stuck on a narrow road with no where to turn without de-hitching, its so easy to injure your back trying to tug it round whilst supporting the noseweight manually whilst bend over in a stooping position, as i found out the hard way many years ago when i owned my first trailer
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05/2/2011 at 10:06pm
Location: worksop Outfit: coachman wanderer
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I have been involved in trailers for many years I have been involved with many manufactures including Erde, Daxara, maypole, Franc, indespension, brenderup, ifor, beatson and more.
For camping I would recommend the following points.
1 Do not buy a trailer with accessories to extend it in height unless you need the height for an item buy a larger trailer as you will probably need to extend it later as you buy more equipment.
2 If you are travelling long distances regularly buy a trailer with large wheels (13") as the tyres and bearings will last longer
3 Stick with popular brands as if you do have a problem 100's of miles away from home you should be able to buy replacement parts. Erde is good for this as halfords although very expensive can get parts for these and there is a halfords in most towns.
4. if you are looking at a box trailer try and get a braked trailer as an unbraked box is heavy and this will reduce the payload. if you check your V5 you will probably not be able to tow an unbraked trailer of 750kg. if the box trailer weighs approx 250kg and your car can only tow 600kg unbraked then you can only load 350kg into your trailer this is not much more than the smallest trailers on the market you are paying approx £1100 for a box trailer and you will not be able to use the full capacity.
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maypole / Camel / Wilstow only do small trailers and parts are not to readily available
Erde / Daxara / Franc are good all-rounder and have a full range, with a large range of accessories for camping
Brenderup / Anssems make the top end or the ranges for camping.
all the above manufactures seem to manufacture trailers to very similar specifications for the sizes of trailer.
I do like Erde trailers as they have a large range trailers, a large range of accessories for most of the trailers, and parts are easily available the 153 is a very good trailer as it is rated at 650kg ideal for most cars. it only weighs 110kg giving a good payload, It has the full range of accessories available, it is well built and strong, and it is one of the cheapest trailers available with 13" wheels and an a-frame drawbar.
I have found a site ( www.erdetrailer.co.uk ) this site has a lot of information on erde trailers.
If you are not sure on size of trailer try hiring or borrowing a trailer. (try before you buy)
Pete
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06/2/2011 at 9:44am
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Hi Pete.
Some good advice there, like the OP I was at the trailer decicion making point back in 2009, having returned from a fortnights camping in the South of France with only a Thule 900 BackUp box for extra capacity, but even with just the two of us, my little VW Golf was still pact to the gunnells, in the past I have always had larger cars or even a van at one point so a trailer was never needed.
Thanks to the advice on here I went for a larger size trailer than I had first planned.
So late 2009 whilst the vat was still at 15% we went for a brand new Lider Alicante c/w ABS lid/RoofRack and trailer tongue box (photo in gallery).
You don't see that many Lider trailers in the UK, but being French made we did see plenty on our holiday in France.
The OP asks about handling, we find our is not oversized so even when loaded I can manouver it by hand with ease once unhitched, although the jokey wheel does help with this.
As for towing, well with 13" wheels and an all up weight of half a ton, it tows like a dream, even at 81mph going along the French Autoroutes, which is legal and no extra charge either on the tolls.
Like someone on here once said, if it dosn't almost fill your rear view mirror, then its not a proper trailer, needles to say, our Lider Alicante does!.
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20/8/2019 at 9:08pm
Location: Kent Outfit: Cabanon Antigua & Relum Canaria
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Quote: Originally posted by Woofers on 15/6/2010
Only advice from me is to go for as big as you can afford, I guarantee you will wish you had bought bigger if you don't Another thing to consider is the size of the tyres, the smaller the tyre the more revolutions on the road which can cause blowouts (so I was told) We started off with a Franc 5 x 3 below, lovely trailer but we outgrew it and always wished we bought bigger initially <img style="WIDTH: 600px; HEIGHT: 450px" id=fullSizedImage class=media alt="P1050339.jpg picture by Haras1970" src="https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/Haras1970/P1050339.jpg?t=1276639071" GALLERYIMG="no"> Now we have the Erde 234 (7 x 4) trailer below and its brilliant, there is only us and our 2 dogs and its still full! (I don't think its normal to take as much as we do tho) <img style="WIDTH: 600px; HEIGHT: 476px" id=fullSizedImage class=media alt="P1050650-1-1.jpg picture by Haras1970" src="https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/Haras1970/Brook%20Meadows%20April%202010/P1050650-1-1.jpg?t=1276639760" GALLERYIMG="no"> Hope you find your perfect trailer
This is a long shot, but do you still have the Erde 234x4 trailer ... I am after some user info if possible please. I will also send a PM to you
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via mobile 21/8/2019 at 8:46am
Location: Cheshire Outfit: Kampa Croyde 6 Air Classic
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Quote: Originally posted by g4fne on 20/8/2019
Quote: Originally posted by Woofers on 15/6/2010
Only advice from me is to go for as big as you can afford, I guarantee you will wish you had bought bigger if you don't Another thing to consider is the size of the tyres, the smaller the tyre the more revolutions on the road which can cause blowouts (so I was told) We started off with a Franc 5 x 3 below, lovely trailer but we outgrew it and always wished we bought bigger initially <img style="WIDTH: 600px; HEIGHT: 450px" id=fullSizedImage class=media alt="P1050339.jpg picture by Haras1970" src="https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/Haras1970/P1050339.jpg?t=1276639071" GALLERYIMG="no"> Now we have the Erde 234 (7 x 4) trailer below and its brilliant, there is only us and our 2 dogs and its still full! (I don't think its normal to take as much as we do tho) <img style="WIDTH: 600px; HEIGHT: 476px" id=fullSizedImage class=media alt="P1050650-1-1.jpg picture by Haras1970" src="https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/Haras1970/Brook%20Meadows%20April%202010/P1050650-1-1.jpg?t=1276639760" GALLERYIMG="no"> Hope you find your perfect trailer
This is a long shot, but do you still have the Erde 234x4 trailer ... I am after some user info if possible please. I will also send a PM to you
I'm not sure I see the point of the 234 for on road use. The 233 and 234 are the same size and both unbraked, so max 750kg UK gross weight limit.
Off road the 234 should unofficially carry more with twin axles.
You pay more for a trailer the same size that can carry only 390kg and thats before you bolt on spare wheel, jockey wheel and possibly high sides in the future when 40cm depth becomes an issue.
Also more like to attract 'fees' at sites as it looks more like a commercial trailer.
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