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We were at Wellington Country Park last weekend - thankfully I'd read reviews which suggested rock pegs - so bought a number, great, went in so easily - you could give them a really strong whack and know they wouldn't break or bend, so even though the ground was hard they went in easily.

We bought a fairly solid looking peg extractor and found they came out as easily as they went in, as long as you got the angle right!! Usually we just use another peg, but I'm now converted to peg pullers!!!

Quote: Originally posted by pingvin on 06/5/2011

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Thank you Former Scout. I will try rock pegs next time any kind of soil is dry and hard. We have not had any rain here for the last weeks (aren't you envious?), and the nice soft fertile Danish soil is like concrete!
And I might invest in a peg puller.

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Quote: Originally posted by pingvin on 06/5/2011

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How about pulling them out again - is it harder than normal pegs in a soft ground? When it has been dry for a long time I feel it can be quite a challenge just to pull the normal ones out of a lawn again. (Might be an idea with rock pegs when the lawn is very dry and hard?).

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I think most pegs can be a challenge pulling them out sometimes and rock pegs are no exception. I buy the type which have a threaded shank. They are hammered in normally but if necessary can be screwed out...just a couple of turns loosens them.

Mostly though, I have found that if pulled out at the same angle they went in, they slide out easily.

Many people try to withdraw pegs straight up when they have been hammered in at an angle. They are hammered in at an angle to prevent them being pulled straight out by the guy rope, hence trying to extract them other than at the angle they went in, is bound to be more difficult.

Quote: Originally posted by Former Scout on 06/5/2011

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...and yesterday we had our first drizzle of rain for as long as I can remember.

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That could be the onset of Alzheimer's

Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 06/5/2011

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Quote: Originally posted by pingvin on 06/5/2011

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How about pulling them out again - is it harder than normal pegs in a soft ground? When it has been dry for a long time I feel it can be quite a challenge just to pull the normal ones out of a lawn again. (Might be an idea with rock pegs when the lawn is very dry and hard?).

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I think most pegs can be a challenge pulling them out sometimes and rock pegs are no exception. I buy the type which have a threaded shank. They are hammered in normally but if necessary can be screwed out...just a couple of turns loosens them.

Mostly though, I have found that if pulled out at the same angle they went in, they slide out easily.

Many people try to withdraw pegs straight up when they have been hammered in at an angle. They are hammered in at an angle to prevent them being pulled straight out by the guy rope, hence trying to extract them other than at the angle they went in, is bound to be more difficult.

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Quote: Originally posted by Hacksaw Bob on 06/5/2011

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On arrival at a site last summer, I vaguely wondered about the numerous small, but several inches deep, holes on the otherwise level and well-maintained tent field.

When I came to extract the rock pegs I'd used I realised the cause.     A couple of them had to be literally dug out by chipping away at the soil with the claw of the hammer!

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Blimey...I've never had that problem with rock pegs. The only time I have left big holes in a pitch is when I was using the plastic pegs that came with my Outwell. Because they had fluted or angular stems the soil stuck to them and a huge plug of soil and grass came up with them. I was glad when I eventually bent them all and decided to replace them with rock pegs permanently.

Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 06/5/2011

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 I buy the type which have a threaded shank. They are hammered in normally but if necessary can be screwed out...just a couple of turns loosens them.

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I don't understand this. If you bash a threaded bar into the soil, surely the hole will be as big as the outside of the thread. This would leave nothing for the thread to push against when removing. The thread can be severely damaged by adjacent rocks when inserting too. Just a thought.

Quote: Originally posted by Rob Orr on 06/5/2011

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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 06/5/2011

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 I buy the type which have a threaded shank. They are hammered in normally but if necessary can be screwed out...just a couple of turns loosens them.

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I don't understand this. If you bash a threaded bar into the soil, surely the hole will be as big as the outside of the thread. This would leave nothing for the thread to push against when removing. The thread can be severely damaged by adjacent rocks when inserting too. Just a thought.

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It's all down to physics Rob