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Subject Topic: monty 6 -draughty
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16/8/2011 at 8:43pm
 Location: Northumberland
 Outfit: Yukon River 6
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Hi,
I understand the problem the OP is refering to, last August bank holiday we were at Filey and the Monty next to us was shredded This looked like it had started by wind getting under the door and starting to unzip the door at one side, guess the zip hadn't been fully down or the door bottom pegged.
When we got our Yukon I was a bit concerned about this but reasoned to myself that this construction is possibly to help let air flow out of the tent. Could be that if one of the side doors is left open to the wind and a gust catches it, it may be possible for the tent to inflate and lift due to the ZIG preventing the air from escaping.
For sure our experience has been to shut the flyscreen and curtain and peg the door down if draughts are becoming a problem, this has worked fine for us so far.

Mojo


16/8/2011 at 9:04pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Outwell Montana Lake
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Not experienced any wind issues as i haven't used my tent in anger yet, however I tend to agree. When i pitched my Montana Lake for the first time i was pleasantly surprised to see so may variants of closing/zipping/unzipping/removing windows & curtains & flynets & vents & bedrooms & doors & groundsheets. Yet the main method of closing down the outside door was reliant on a couple of inch of velcro..!

When i pegged down the front of the tent to a reasonably taut position it proved really difficult to fasten the small velcro tab. Still really happy with the tent as it suits my family more than well. Still the Montana 6 has some really good design items which unfortunately never made it to my Lake version.

Andy



16/8/2011 at 9:21pm
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 Outfit: Bear Lake 6
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The Bear Lake door zips all the way round, but I have the same niggles with the windows.  When the wind gets up, the one piece of velcro isn't really enough to hold them in place and pops open.  It's never been cold enough to bother us, but I think the positioning of the velcro could be improved too.  I like the idea of calling it ventilation though because I don't like to admit rto a fault on our tent ;)


16/8/2011 at 9:25pm
 Location: cleveland
 Outfit:  monty 6.
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the door leading into the side passage has a full zip, so the one door that doesn't need a full zip has one. the opposite side door, & the front door, that don't open into a passage don't? this is what I can't understand. I have no intention of taking the tent back etc. I am trying to solve the problem with the 2 door bottoms, & was hoping someone had a simple solution to seal the doors, without sewing velcro. this will then make a really good tent a better  tent


16/8/2011 at 9:43pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Outwell Montana Lake
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I have an awning fitted so take the issue away slightly. However i will be camping for weekends without so will watch this space.

Rather like the complete strip of velcro fix and can't see this being bettered really. This could end up looking factory fitted too. Would just require fixing from the outside so using the porched entrance only. not an issue as if it is really windy it would make sense to limit access to this point only anyhow. Also at evenings before retiring to the pit, both front and side would need velcro attaching from the outside again using the porched entrance only. I suppose with the Lake i could seal them all up and climb in through a removable window..!



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16/8/2011 at 10:23pm
 Location: Aston Clinton
 Outfit: Kampa Holkham + Outwell Yukon River*
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If you make the front door a D door how are you going to pole it out as a canopy???

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16/8/2011 at 10:28pm
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 Outfit: Outwell Montana Lake
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 "If you make the front door a D door how are you going to pole it out as a canopy???"

undo the velcro surely..!


16/8/2011 at 10:53pm
 Location: Wolverhampton
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6
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i think a couple of clingons, short guy and a couple of pegs would hold door closed leaving you to use the side entrance.

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17/8/2011 at 9:24am
 Location: cleveland
 Outfit:  monty 6.
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the doors on the gobi 4 fly sheet are similar to the monty. the fly mesh inner door seals the door completely when zipped closed, so  no draughts, & a door that can be opened out to a canopy. a far better design from hi gear, than outwell. I use the porch door on the monty all the time, & think it is a big plus over other designs, we take our shoes , & wet coats off etc in the porch, before entering the main tent, & keeping the carpet clean. if outwell had put more velcro on the door bottoms instead of 3 small pieces it would work better, the same as the side vents that blew open in strong winds. I was hoping a simple fix with industrial velcro would fix it , but even though it stuck to other materials I tested it on, it pulled off the monty material, so this is the reason I posted this. maybe the same velcro with seam sealer applied to it may work better. there is always a simple solution to rectify niggles like this, so will keep experimenting. if the wife would sow velcro on, that would solve it, but she won't. velcro sown on with seam sealer applied would I think be a good solution.



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