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Personspiritburner
25/3/2014 at 12:13pm
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Where do you guys stand insurance-wise if flying embers from your fire but a hole in someone else's tent?


PersonBigSis2012
25/3/2014 at 1:43pm
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Don't know, but would have thought if it's a site which allows fires it will either have insurance or will have some kind of notice stating that they're not responsible (kind of like supermarket car parks do).

If I was worried about it though, I'd avoid sites which allowed fires and/or BBQs (there are quite a few out there which don't allow either).


Personspiritburner
25/3/2014 at 1:59pm
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So you wouldn't accept responsibility for damage caused by your fire?

Just curious. I was in a storm at Devils Monument KOA site & put someone's fire out for them when it's embers came near my tent about 50ft away.   They were too busy trying to salvage their tent to be bothered so I didn't waste time asking if it was ok. Also had a near miss with a Chinese lantern which nearly ended in violence but for the quick intervention of staff.


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25/3/2014 at 2:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by spiritburner on 25/3/2014
So you wouldn't accept responsibility for damage caused by your fire?



What I said was that the campsite may have signs up stating that they're not responsible.....not that I didn't think I was responsible

If I knew my fire had damaged someone's tent I would accept the responsibility. However I tend to avoid making fires in storms!


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Quote: Originally posted by spiritburner on 25/3/2014
Where do you guys stand insurance-wise if flying embers from your fire but a hole in someone else's tent?


Well, this is why we went for a flue pipe with a spark arrestor for our stove. Having said that, if I were camping on a site that allowed campfires, I would think it's just a risk you take. I certainly wouldn't dream of going after the site owner or trying to pin blame on one of the other campers.



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Personspiritburner
25/3/2014 at 3:41pm
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Aye - but not all campers are sensible like BigSis2012 or yourself & start fires when it's too windy &/or too close to other tents. I'm not just going to shrug my shoulders in those circumstances.


PersonTynxuk
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Even avoiding sites that allow campfires doesn't ensure your neighbouring camper isn't going to use their BBQ as a firepit.
Exactly this happened to us and to add 'fuel to the fire' they had placed their BBQ closer to our TT than their folding camper! I don't like confrontation and hubby would only be bothered by such an act IF something happened to our TT so I went to bed seething and thoroughly checked the TT over in the morning! Luckily no damage caused but had it I would have expected them to pay for repairs/replacement and had they refused I don't want to think what I would do


PersonBigSis2012
25/3/2014 at 5:59pm
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I was at a festival once and unusually for a festival (in the UK) it was really hot weather!

Went to sleep late one night and woke in the morning to find the remains of someone's fire about 3 feet from my tinder dry tent. Doesn't bear thinking about how that could have ended, I guess we were just fortunate that it was also not windy.

But yes, I am always careful with fires. I'd never forgive myself if my own caused damage to someone else's property, be it on a campsite or elsewhere.

I was thinking about using my BBQ as a fire pit but really only in my own garden. There's a campsite that we sometimes go to and they use the metal hubs from inside wheels as their fire pits - they work really well.


Personheath63
25/3/2014 at 10:10pm
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Hiya, I have used this BBQ, it is too low to the ground, I found that it scorches the grass. You would need something to raise it higher from the ground.

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26/3/2014 at 7:15am
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OK thanks for the info, I may invest in a fire pit for my garden instead.


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PersonTynxuk
26/3/2014 at 8:24am
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I managed to get one of thesehalf price last year, the stand doesn't take long to assemble so we take it flat pack. I like that it has a spark screen and we just added the grill from an old round bbq so it is duel purpose although yet to use it as a fire pit.


Personachy
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In the past I have only ever visited a 'tap and loo in a field' type of campsite and always been happy with campfires but as I invest more in my equipment I do think...what if...so would be more wary of fires now. I guess one on the main advantages of going to totally non commercial sites is that often there is a lot more room between each tent-so hopefully less fire risk-but not always the case of course!

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Quote: Originally posted by achy on 26/3/2014
In the past I have only ever visited a 'tap and loo in a field' type of campsite and always been happy with campfires but as I invest more in my equipment I do think...what if...so would be more wary of fires now. I guess one on the main advantages of going to totally non commercial sites is that often there is a lot more room between each tent-so hopefully less fire risk-but not always the case of course!


This is the kind of site we tend to visit too. Personally, I think the risk is tiny and I just don't worry about it. I think if I "went to bed seething" that would really ruin my holiday far more than the remote possibility of a pin-hole burn in my tent canvas.



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Mmmmmmm toastie toes...



We use one of these and one of these (B&M 99p each) and we always ask first. Never had anyone say no, and as long as they can see it has feet and off the ground, they are more than happy - as long as its away from anyone elses tent (we use the windbreaker in an almost c shape to help stop smoke from disturbing others.

Most times ppl come and join us anyway. We don't do it if the pitches are too small, or too much wind haha (not ours)

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