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Subject Topic: winter heating in awning?????
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30/11/2011 at 8:50pm
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Most of the larger, calor-type, gas heaters have built in mechanisms which will stop the heater from working if there is insufficient oxygen in the area.

Most gas heaters burn so efficiently they hardly give off any CO anyway. Someone I know left one of those small cartridge gas tent heaters on in his dining room, with all doors & windows closed & a CO alarm positioned directly above it. It was running for 3 hours, undisturbed, & never set the alarm off.

It's when these things develop a fault that problems occur. If they burn with a yellow flame, or flickering flame, they are not burning efficiently & will be giving off more CO gas. otherwise, you're pretty safe.

My dad was telling me, years ago when he married his first wife, they had a gas fridge installed in their house. When I asked him about the flue, he said "as far as I know, it was room vented". His ex wife does have her problems, but I don't think they are due to carbon monoxide poisoning.


01/12/2011 at 11:05am
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My dad was telling me, years ago when he married his first wife, they had a gas fridge installed in their house. When I asked him about the flue, he said "as far as I know, it was room vented". His ex wife does have her problems, but I don't think they are due to carbon monoxide poisoning.


Yes, we had a gas fridge in the kitchen when I was young, along with the gas hob and oven - none vented to outside.

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01/12/2011 at 11:05am
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My dad was telling me, years ago when he married his first wife, they had a gas fridge installed in their house. When I asked him about the flue, he said "as far as I know, it was room vented". His ex wife does have her problems, but I don't think they are due to carbon monoxide poisoning.


Yes, we had a gas fridge in the kitchen when I was young, along with the gas hob and oven - none vented to outside.

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01/12/2011 at 11:32am
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Do you have any inner tents for the awning? If you don't need all the space to move about in then putting up an inner tent or two will make the area you want to heat smaller and therefore take less energy to do so, with an inner tent mounted it may act as insulation and is excellent for storage.

Also try draping a few sheets accross the roof (and even down the walls) to add more insulation.



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Quote: Originally posted by Tynxuk on 01/12/2011

Do you have any inner tents for the awning? If you don't need all the space to move about in then putting up an inner tent or two will make the area you want to heat smaller and therefore take less energy to do so, with an inner tent mounted it may act as insulation and is excellent for storage.

Also try draping a few sheets accross the roof (and even down the walls) to add more insulation.




Very good point, as most canvas frame tents have inners & a roof lining, which are usually quite good insulation.


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02/12/2011 at 10:13am
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It wasn't considered necessary to have extra ventilation years ago, most houses had  airbricks and open fires etc, it's since double glazing and draftproofing became the norm that it's necessary and is a requirement under the regs nowadays.

Carbon monoxide forms when there isn't enough oxygen to produce carbon dioxide, even the most efficient gas burner will produce Co in a confined space when there isn't enough oxygen to permit the production of carbon dioxide.

People are careful with electricity because they recognise it is colourless and odourless the same applies to carbon monoxide,the added problem is that, unlike electricity ,you have no indication that you have been exposed to it till it's frequently too late.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 02/12/2011

It wasn't considered necessary to have extra ventilation years ago, most houses had  airbricks and open fires etc, it's since double glazing and draftproofing became the norm that it's necessary and is a requirement under the regs nowadays.

Carbon monoxide forms when there isn't enough oxygen to produce carbon dioxide, even the most efficient gas burner will produce Co in a confined space when there isn't enough oxygen to permit the production of carbon dioxide.

People are careful with electricity because they recognise it is colourless and odourless the same applies to carbon monoxide,the added problem is that, unlike electricity ,you have no indication that you have been exposed to it till it's frequently too late.

Saxo1




Which is why I always use a CO detector/alarm in my tent, seeing as I choose to cook & heat inside the tent with gas. (I use EHU in the very cold months though).


02/12/2011 at 1:26pm
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My dog has a fur coat and sleeps in the van in his own bed,besides that heating an awning is like weeing in the sea to warm it up before swimming in it

My self if I sit in the awning I've left my van door open to take the chill from the air,but if it's to cold I do like I do at home GO INDOORS

Before I begin jumping to any conclusions it may be worth considering what may have caused this terrible fire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13737367


My thoughts go out to this family


02/12/2011 at 10:31pm
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Why not try to Panell off a section of the awning at night time with tables on their side,or wind breakers and use halogen heaters.I find this works a treat.You wont save all the heat,but you wont loose it all either and the halogen heaters are very light on the leccie also.

John.




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