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Subject Topic: Erdie 102 trailer advice please
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04/9/2015 at 8:36pm
 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Hi all,

I Would like to thank everyone for there comments and help with getting us away on holiday a few weeks ago now. It's been a while since I last posted but I can report in the dieing hours the tow bar was fitted and trailer finished. It ended up that I used the frame I had previously made and built my own cover as I was told 24hrs before I was due to leave that there was an three week waiting list for the cover to be made. After the panic has faided I made my own temp solution. It worked a treat and have covered over a thousand miles with no problems at all. Even driving home in a storm did not give me any problems and was steady as a rock.

Picked up the new cover which was custom made today and to be happy is an understatement. I will post some pictures over the weekend of the trailer but even though it's the baby of the Eder family its more then capable of holding its own.



04/9/2015 at 8:52pm
 Location: Sweet Home Inversneckie
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'Dirty air' , ''Cars displaced air pressure', what am I missing here.
Also are you tyres rated for 81 m.p.h Francais?

I know I was overtaking at 70 m.p.h. in the summer on the M 6 when the traffic eventually eased. But all the while I was a little apprehensive. Despite my 13" wheels.
81 m.p.h.. and towing for 1000's of miles seems a bit adventurous.

Please correct me.


04/9/2015 at 11:13pm
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Yep tyres are rated 75T so safe upto 118mph!, well they would be it's a French Trailer.

Just a case of setting the Cruise Control and watching the miles roll by, been doing that since 2010, tyres still good for another 5 years having only done 8k miles.


05/9/2015 at 9:26am
 Location: Sweet Home Inversneckie
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Mine are N rated only good till 87 m.p.h.
Need to curb my enthusiasm and certainly not try to chase you!

Tried cruise control last weekend. Found it an experience that I wasn't sure I liked. Certainly felt the engine was working harder.


05/9/2015 at 10:21am
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I find that MPG improves when using Cruise Control, it's the hill sections on the autoroutes both up and down were Cruise Control really seems to come into it's own.

On the firms Mk7 Golf that I drive, it has a Radar Detector which will adjust the Speed to keep you a distance from the vehicle in front.

For me that was always the problem with the earlier versions of Cruise Control, you were forever knocking it of and setting it back up again.

Having said that, Cruise Control is pretty useless on UK motorways during the day, and I had hardly used it until we got over to France.

No Hand Brake on the Mk7 Golf, now that did take a little getting used to, having had a Hand Brake since I started driving 38 years ago!


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05/9/2015 at 11:57am
 Location: Somerset
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Glad I found this thread.
Do I buy a used erde 102 then get high side kit
Or
Just get an erde 142 (the older version of the 143)?

The cost of the small trailer with high side kit works out around £200
The larger trailer will be £260 just with cover & is just over an hours drive away....

We have a roof box & 4x4 but still didn't fit in the car after a camping holiday abroad (our friends took our tent back in their caravan!). Plus we're buying more for our next trip (bigger tent, gas bbq....) so will need plenty of room.

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05/9/2015 at 3:45pm
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I have a 102 and my FIL's mobility scooter fitted in just nicely.

Adding high sides is OK for lightweight bulky stuff but adding the sides will reduce your carrying capacity.




05/9/2015 at 3:52pm
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142 it is 😀 Thankyou

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05/9/2015 at 5:02pm
 Location: Sweet Home Inversneckie
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Puzzled as to how adding sides will reduce carrying capacity.


05/9/2015 at 11:39pm
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The weight.    It costs in the load the trailer can carry. I got a edre 122.   Now it's 60kg approx. I added sides and a lid that took it to 92kg.   That difference reduces its load by 32kg.   So Max gross is 400kg.   With a load of 340kg.    By adding sides the weight is taken off.   

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05/9/2015 at 11:42pm
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The issue with camping gear is always weight.   My tent is the greatest item at 30kg. But after doing my trailer build I found clothes are so bulky I need to add a topbox to put them in as most of the weight went into the cars boot.    As all the space was taken up with clothes for 5 for 2 weeks.    

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Quote: Originally posted by Rhj296 on 05/9/2015
Puzzled as to how adding sides will reduce carrying capacity.



The trailer has a loading capacity limit, say a gross weight of 350kg for example.

The trailer may weigh 75kg on its own, then add a spare wheel and the bracket kit making another 25kg.
So your 350kg trailer can now only carry 250kg.

Add the weight of the sides and anything else you want to fit and your decreasing that limit further.

I have seen some pictures where people have extended the sides in 1/2" ply which is not light and then added a top or plastic canopy and then asking about sticking roof bars on top of that.

Sometimes you have to wonder what it weighs and is there any spare capacity left to put anything in it.

Wife hands me the bags to load the car every year and i say thats not going in the roofbox. Light stuff only.

Yet everyyear we have the same argument. I just say now that if she can pickup all the bags with one hand and hold them for 10 seconds i will put them in the roofbox.

Amazing how empty it stays since saying that, until next year...



06/9/2015 at 2:25am
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Understood. I was thinking of volume rather than weight.

I am corrected.
I have a 750 kg trailer which I have extended twice.
I weighed it at Easter time, fully loaded and if came in at overv 600 kg.



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1/2" ply is a bit over kill lol. I used 12mm. And used a light weight frame to support it for the windbreaks to go on top.   However I am looking at a roofbox for it.    I can use alu flat bar to make a frame for the box to secure to. Clothes only.   Its actually harder to load a trailer than you would think. As I am no where near the load limit and no room left in the trailer.

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We have an Erde 102 and cage extensions,
Purchased from Towing and Trailers. Great service and very happy with it.

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