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17/6/2013 at 12:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Kelper on 17/6/2013We tend to use a coffee shop/bar either at the campsite or nearest village/town. You just can't make the continental equivalent yourself!
And ... if you tell me you can ... I just won't believe you! 
Don't believe me then, your loss, but absolutely you can make '"continental" coffee when camping... In fact you can make it better, because you can make sure you have freshly roasted beans (buy from a roaster before you leave, like Has Bean coffee) and take a hand grinder. I can drink beans roasted the day before, and ground seconds before I brew up. The difference in taste is amazing. Is there a campsite coffee shop that can say that? I doubt it, and probably served by a minimum wage barista that does not care or really understand coffee. Good beans and good barista make good coffee, not equipment. It's like saying Jamie Oliver's camp food can't be as nice as the Little Chef down the road.
Also, what do you mean by 'continental' coffee? If you mean Italian then the vast majority of Italians use Moka pots. Or do you mean French press? That's simple too. Drip is easy to make but hard to get right, but then drip is American not 'continental'. Frothing milk can be done too.
If you are referring to the type of coffee sold in Starbucks (yuck) or Costa etc, don't be fooled into think they are continental. Espresso may have originated in Italy, but what they sell is American style coffee - huge buckets of milk.
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17/6/2013 at 5:33pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Kelper on 17/6/2013OK ... I apologise ..Of course you CAN make a decent cup of coffee: for instance ... but it takes time.
To me ... sitting on a pavement cafe in a Provencal village, in balmy weather, looking at the world go by, is one of the joys of living ... challenged only by the same place with a glass of vin rouge.
No hassle making it ... served in a proper expresso cup ... ah, c'est la vie!
And I'll still, ocassionally, succomb to a cup of coffee from the jar outside the camper ... but not often, if there's a decent cafe nearby!
And I absolutely concur about Staryucks and Costalot!
Im not sure about that article you linked, sorry. I applogise in advance, but I'm a coffee snob sorry. There is no denying it, you will have probably noticed by now. I frequent coffee forums and have friends that run coffee shops. I also know quite a few people who roast their own beans at home. I'm generalising a bit, but in the slightly (ok, very) obsessive world of gourmet coffee I can assure you that the vast majority of true coffee enthusiasts weapon of choice is the espresso machine (proper ones, often eye wateringly expensive). Most have multiple methods, with Aeropress being incredibly popular these days, but also 'pour over' like the chemex. Plus of course Moka (very popular in itally) too, but a lot of people into the 'third wave' single origin coffee turn their nose up at the bitter 'burnt' taste (must admit, I have gone off it). French press and drip are fairly low on the list for most coffee geeks, but can still be lovely when done right (Starbucks drip is far better than their espresso most of the time IMO). :)
But any method done properly will be better than a misused espresso machine that costs thousands. I was in Nero the other day. I watched the barista make me an americano - the water gushed out in about 5 seconds (if you know anything about espresso you will know that's not good, it takes at least 20-30 seconds - a big difference), leaving a very unextracted sour tasting drink. Probably due to a change in beans and the grinder not being calibrated. I would not even have noticed 12 months ago!
I'v become a coffee bore, guilty as charged. It comes from giving ip smoking and drinking i think, its my last vice too. I'll get my coat!
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