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Subject Topic: Tv - what do I need to get channels?
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07/8/2013 at 1:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by feeblecat on 07/8/2013
Hi Vangoman, look above at Justin Aerial's posts. There is a homepage and that is the company I used ATV (it was coincidence - I was surfing and found it). Dont know if it was Justin I spoke to but whoever it was was really helpful. I got a log periodic aerial, jockey wheel clamps, coax etc. Dont know the make of aerial as I have thrown the box out and as we speak aerial is at top of mast in front of caravan on-site! We are currently at Thomaston Farm Culzean and coudnt get any reception a few weeks ago - right now we have 131 channels, all with fab picture. I had to get the pole separately (Amazon). I'm very happy with set up and the reason for our trouble arrives today (grandson) so CBB's tonight it is then!



Thanks for that..I will have a look at the log aerials on the link, I already have the pole, clamp etc from a few years back.
I have an aerial at present but its about the size of a small satelite
It does fold down so packs away quite easy but just feel when assembled its to big..

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07/8/2013 at 5:50pm
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Always been 'Old Skool' I use antenna on pole, cable tied to old windbreak broomstick and connects into a kworld usb stick then into laptop.

Pre visit to campsite check out on map where local transmission mast is, work out compass bearing and mag variation. (grid to mag, add!)

Onsite, mast up,compass out align antenna and retune kworld.

Picture perfect!

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07/8/2013 at 7:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Amjake on 07/8/2013Always been 'Old Skool' I use antenna on pole, cable tied to old windbreak broomstick and connects into a kworld usb stick then into laptop.

Pre visit to campsite check out on map where local transmission mast is, work out compass bearing and mag variation. (grid to mag, add!)

Onsite, mast up,compass out align antenna and retune kworld.

Picture perfect!



This made me giggle. Old school to me wouldnt have used usb or laptop. That is high tech to me. Nor would maps have been in the frame. Aerial into tv and for the next few hours the aerial was rotated and turned vertically and horizontally till you were lucky enough to find any old channel. Any movement at all lost the reception and it all started again. Happy days.


07/8/2013 at 8:32pm
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Funny that Teeny, I was in wash up area the other week watching a couple trying to get the tv tuned in using that method, He was on sofa in caravan, wifey outside doing the turning.

"Try it the other way"

How's that?

"No that's worse, line it up with the caravan next door"

I have, is that any good?

"No, now we've lost Corrie"

Why don't you come out and bl**dy do it

Camping divorce?

Thought - what if next door isn't lined up?



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08/8/2013 at 7:17pm
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Get a freesat receiver and small dish.

All you need is line of sight to the sattelite and you will get a signal.

We have used it loads of times, of course an aeriel is a lot cheaper but then I would rather know I only have to put a pole up, a small dish, point it in th eright direction wihich is easy to do and signal here we go ;)

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09/8/2013 at 9:28am
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Quote: Originally posted by scifipaul on 08/8/2013
Get a freesat receiver and small dish.

All you need is line of sight to the sattelite and you will get a signal.

We have used it loads of times, of course an aeriel is a lot cheaper but then I would rather know I only have to put a pole up, a small dish, point it in th eright direction wihich is easy to do and signal here we go ;)


Satellite is one way to go and suits some people. Personally I find it too much hassle. There are some places where a sat dish will work perfectly but an aerial never will, but equally, particularly if there are buldings or trees about, there are places where a TV aerial will work but a sat dish won`t. 

Interesting point about sat dishes (like aerials) is the smaller thay are the less signal they pick up but the easier they are to align because the acceptance angle is greater. The down side being small satellite dishes are more prone to "rain fade" (i.e. losing the signal in bad weather) and won`t work up in N Scotland, not reliably anyway. Also bear in mind you won`t get any signal from a satellite dish through trees or buildings and sat tuners take more current out of your battery.



09/8/2013 at 6:08pm
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You are totally right, if you camp under a tree or directly in front of a building then line of sight to the satellite is either very limited or non existent.

But to be honest I wouldnt camp under a tree because of sap damage and so on, I take into account location when looking at a pitch and most are in a field so likely not to be affected by trees or a building.

Again I agree the smaller the dish the more signal is affected but then thats the same for normal satellite strenngth on your house also.

Good points you have made but then I have found far less issues by using a freesat set up as opposed to an aeriel, but again horses for courses :)

Quote: Originally posted by Justin Aerial on 09/8/2013
Quote: Originally posted by scifipaul on 08/8/2013
Get a freesat receiver and small dish.

All you need is line of sight to the sattelite and you will get a signal.

We have used it loads of times, of course an aeriel is a lot cheaper but then I would rather know I only have to put a pole up, a small dish, point it in th eright direction wihich is easy to do and signal here we go ;)


Satellite is one way to go and suits some people. Personally I find it too much hassle. There are some places where a sat dish will work perfectly but an aerial never will, but equally, particularly if there are buldings or trees about, there are places where a TV aerial will work but a sat dish won`t. 

Interesting point about sat dishes (like aerials) is the smaller thay are the less signal they pick up but the easier they are to align because the acceptance angle is greater. The down side being small satellite dishes are more prone to "rain fade" (i.e. losing the signal in bad weather) and won`t work up in N Scotland, not reliably anyway. Also bear in mind you won`t get any signal from a satellite dish through trees or buildings and sat tuners take more current out of your battery.







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10/8/2013 at 8:43am
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It took OH less than 5 minutes for the full set up and we got the channels immediately. We did install antenna apps on our phones and aligned aerial using that - easy as pie ( yeah I know at some point we will go somewhere with no phone reception and will do it the old fashioned way then). Must also add our friend is with us at the moment. He has always had great reception on his set up. He was peeved that we got 131 channels and he could only get 70! Evil smle!!


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Did you get the short version or the bigger version,there are so many types. It seems to work well and that sounds good to me. So would like get the same one given your success with it...

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10/8/2013 at 10:49am
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Quote: Originally posted by VangoMan02 on 10/8/2013
Did you get the short version or the bigger version,there are so many types. It seems to work well and that sounds good to me. So would like get the same one given your success with it...



Hi, looks like the long one - it has 26 element thingys. I tried to take a pic but wont upload.


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10/8/2013 at 7:23pm
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I see you are as technical as me..26 element thingys I totally understand..cheers

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11/8/2013 at 9:26am
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I am surprised that no one has yet mentioned of another option......!

I had this problem for a while, and fully understand the frustration of bored children when camping in good ol blighty weather, especially when one of them is special needs.

And that is why I bought an iPad, and use 'Catchuptv',


12/8/2013 at 8:51am
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Does Catchuptv use much data? I've thought about using the same set up but I thought it would eat all my data when using 3G and not many sites allow free unlimited wifi


14/8/2013 at 9:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by fradillian on 12/8/2013
Does Catchuptv use much data? I've thought about using the same set up but I thought it would eat all my data when using 3G and not many sites allow free unlimited wifi



I don't think it uses that much, but can't really comment, because I have an 'All you can eat' data plan, so do not monitor it...!

When I have used the sites wifi, never had a problem with that either.



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