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I would have a think about that, because the return and refill system, filters out cylinders that are past there best, and recons existing ones in order to extend the servicible life of the cylinder.
If you are finding CampinGaz 907 refills to expensive, then I would say go for the Gas flow lite 5kg plastic cylinder, or Calor 5kg Patio cylinder, if your ever in France Le Cube 5kg cylinder is a good option.
Of course Somthing needs to be done about the price of CampinGaz 907 refills, the eqivelent amount of gas from Calor would be about £6 so even if the 907 refill was £10 they would still be raking it in.
We carry two 907 cylinders for when we are over in France, to ensure that we are never out of gas, and to be fair as we are mostly using EHU, a 907 cylinder can last for ten weeks of camping, the reason why I have stuck with CampinGaz is that the cylinders are the perfect size, and our two are stored in the trailer tongue box, taking up very little room indeed.
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Firstly I'm not going to tell you how to do it, because done incorrectly it's potentially a huge risk to life and property, and I wouldn't wish to be responsible for putting anyone's life in peril, but it is a fairly simple DIY proposition.
I'll highlight the risks (which WILL no doubt bring responses accusing over caution, nanny state etc. etc. - I'll live with that just fine) for you to judge the overall value/risk balance of DIY refilling.
1) Every cylinder that is refilled by Calor, Campingaz or whoever, is individually safety checked AND batch recalled if known issues have occurred with other cylinders from that batch (think about fairly recent mass recalling of faulty Calorlite cylinders and no new cylinders being re-issued!). That will not happen if you DIY!
2) Any leaking LPG liquid (and you are transferring liquid not gas!) creates huge gas clouds which are a very serious fire risk. - Liquid Propane converts to gaseous Propane at the ratio of 1:270, so one litre of leaked liquid would create 270 litres of gas, then mixed with air to a combustible ratio of around 5% gas to air, you then have an explosive gas cloud of 26,000 litres! - not the kind of bang you want to be in the middle of, and a bit beyond DIY fire extinguishing, all from a reasonably small one litre accidental spill and EVERYTHING that follows is totally out of your control!
3) Cylinders are NOT filled to capacity, there needs to be significant head room for the liquid to turn to gas, otherwise still liquefied gas will be emitted from the cylinder and only turn gaseous when exiting something like a stove burner - back to the liquid:gas ratio of 1:270 etc, - result is a huge fireball! You would need to measure the amount of LPG being transferred to empty cylinder to ensure not exceeding the safe volume!
4) I dread to think how many fire regulations and Health and Safety laws you would be in breach of, if you survived the 'bang', they'd probably prosecute your charred arse every which way, so would any fire/blast damaged neighbours!
As much as I object to the criminally exploitive price of a 907 cylinder, I'm more inclined to just use a cheaper source of gas such as a Calor 4.5kg, than try and economise by DIY refilling a 907. I know that the argument goes that "have you ever heard of the doomsday scenario you painted actually happening to the many that do it?", well it isn't totally unknown! As a engineer I could rig it up easily enough, but it's a risk too far for saving only a few pounds to me!
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