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Subject Topic: Some Calor Gas Bottles Discontinued
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02/1/2024 at 5:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 02/1/2024

FloGas claim to have the greatest number of outlets! I was certainly cautious about changing from Calor, but a little research allayed fears.




That's probably true, but many of their outlets seem to be roofing companies stocking mostly Propane in larger sizes.
They also have all the B&Q branches, but they only stock a very limited range: suitable for barbecues and patio heaters.

Whereas Calor stockists tend to carry a large range. Most campsites also seem to only stock Calor or Camping Gaz.

There are a couple of general Flogas stockists not too far away from me, but nothing like number of Calor stockists available.



02/1/2024 at 6:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ukros on 02/1/2024
Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 02/1/2024

FloGas claim to have the greatest number of outlets! I was certainly cautious about changing from Calor, but a little research allayed fears.




That's probably true, but many of their outlets seem to be roofing companies stocking mostly Propane in larger sizes.
They also have all the B&Q branches, but they only stock a very limited range: suitable for barbecues and patio heaters.

Whereas Calor stockists tend to carry a large range. Most campsites also seem to only stock Calor or Camping Gaz.

There are a couple of general Flogas stockists not too far away from me, but nothing like number of Calor stockists available.




There are a few places that don't seem to publicise that they stock FloGas, such as B and M stores with garden centres, and even Costco does if you have a members card. It does depend on where in the country you are to some extent, I can find more Flogas outlets around me than Calor! And of course Calor have built themselves a reputation of late for NOT having stock of popular sizes in many outlets! It's true enough that Calor still dominates on campsites, but for how long if they alienate campers with the need for smaller cylinders!


02/1/2024 at 6:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 02/1/2024
Seems that Calor has really gone downhill. At one time they were THE ones to go to, their name was synonymous with the bottled gas industry and bottled gas country-wide was often just referred to as Calor Gas. How the mighty have fallen.




Calor seem to have been their own worst enemy, they have got it wrong at just about every turn! Difficult to see how any competent management could have allowed it to happen in so many ways and for so long! Think they may have believed they were the dominant vendor and couldn't lose business! - how wrong!

FloGas on the other hand have been very shrewd indeed, they have acquired numerous small, otherwise pretty insignificant brands (look at how many cylinder brands they will take for refill!) over past few years, they have taken offloaded business from the likes of Shell and BP (the great Gaslight cylinders!), they have quietly built themselves an empire AND built the infrastructure to support it, now they are the brand to be reckoned with it seems!

I'm not in favour of one brand being dominant in any market place, the consumer rarely benefits from that, but Calor have written their own destiny with perhaps the greatest business sin, undermining confidence in their brand, not quite a Gerald Ratner 'crap' moment, but they've awoken customers to rival brands that seemingly meet market needs better!


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Quite agree on the Gerald Ratner analogy Monty15!


02/1/2024 at 8:10pm
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Maybe Calor just got complacent? They have been around longer than most. Several companies have come and gone, Unigas for example, so perhaps Calor just thought they couldn't lose.

Personally I don't like one company dominating the market either, that isn't good for anyone.

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02/1/2024 at 8:44pm
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I'm pleased that I've moved to Safefill. The bottles are much lighter than Calor and a refill cost a lot less too.
Safefill do three different sizes, 5kg, 7.5kg and 10kg.


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We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


via mobile 03/1/2024 at 5:44pm
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Calor appear to have seen sense and are re-continuing them!

https://www.pbo.co.uk/news/calor-gas-u-turn-on-phasing-out-3-9kg-4-5kg-bottles-83635


03/1/2024 at 11:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Connorsdad on 03/1/2024
Calor appear to have seen sense and are re-continuing them!

https://www.pbo.co.uk/news/calor-gas-u-turn-on-phasing-out-3-9kg-4-5kg-bottles-83635



I posted that link yesterday!



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I got a Calor 4.5Kg exchange today, my local garage had 4 in stock.
The cylinder had been very recently refurbished.


via mobile 27/3/2024 at 8:20am
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Our local supplier has gone over to Flogas. Used to be a garden centre.


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27/3/2024 at 5:27pm
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Is FloGas the same as LPG or Autogas? (Apologies if that's been asked already, I've not read the previous 5 pages.)
We get our LPG for the MH underslung gas tank from Morrison's Supermarket fuel stations. But the nozzle has a locking mechanism, I don't know if that's compatible with the canisters.
We use the app "myLPG.eu" (others apps will be available). Our local Calor LPG site closed the LPG refill stanchion because they can't get the part to repair it, but they weren't the cheapest.

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2024 = 20 sites / 41 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.


28/3/2024 at 5:43am
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No, it was always a competitor to Calor.

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How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
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28/3/2024 at 10:24am
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No Fiona, in this context Flogas is a supplier of exchangeable (full for empty) cylinders, just like Calor. They do have divisions doing bulk delivery to domestic/industrial/commercial premises though, so a big player in the LPG market.



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