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06/10/2007 at 8:49pm
Location: Newcastle Under Lyme Outfit: Vango Delta 300 Rage Alta 6DX
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A responsible tyre manufacturer should make every effort to contact anyone who may have a vehicle affected by this, but they shouldn't rely on the dealers to do it for them. After all, it's not the dealers fault, they had the vehicles on good faith too.
I would refer my tyres to a tyre expert for an opinion (a reputable tyre dealer, ATS and the like) rather than a vehicle dealer. Having said that, the dealers should have had a technical briefing on the problem.
Caravan tyres are a problem, especialy if the caravan isn't used much, as a tyre likes to be kept out of UV, and does like to be rotated, rather than sitting loaded in one spot. Cracking on the sidewalls is a common sign of UV damage, but apparently these tyres have a more serious, specific problem. Nobody does a recall for nothing.
Never, ever, use a tyre that has been fitted and has been deflated for a while, with enough load on it to flatten it. You sometimes see caravans stored like this, as an anti-theft measure. This can cause irreversible damage to the carcass, which can then give up at any time.
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08/10/2007 at 11:54am
Location: wirral Outfit: autocruise starfire
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Hi all, a lot of people are not aware that all tyres are load rated and if you are fitting to a van you need to ensure that the maximum load on the sidewall is not exceeded and on any van the tyres must be re-inforced or commercial van. Because of the low profiles we are now seeing theses days, i.e. 65/60/55 it is quite easy to fit tyres that are only rated for cars,my size is 225/60/16 and I got mine from E-Tyres on the web and made sure that the R/F was shown on the side wall, do not take the word of the tyre dealer that they will be okay, make him show you the sidewall, you can be blinded by cost and think you are getting a bargain, well you are not. I owned a tyre depot for 20 years and punters try to talk you into fitting the wrong tyres, I never would, as for the re-call it does happen, but very rarely, Matador are in the cheapie range and I,m surprised that they would be fitted o.e.perhaps Swift need to take better advice which tyres thet fir.
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12/10/2007 at 9:34pm
Location: Blackpool Outfit: Outwell Montana 6
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Not been on here for a while...
reason I logged on was for advice on trailer tyres over winter... seems a good fit with this article.
Last year we kept the trailer down the side of the house, on it's "bottom" with no weight on the tyres. This year we've left it (packed) in the garage. What's the best way to keep the tyres from flatting ?
Should I move the trailer e.g. every week, overinflate the tyres, or what ? From posts above, UV should be drastically reduced.
Or, would a set of "winter storage wheels" be a better idea ?
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13/10/2007 at 11:50am
Location: None Entered Outfit: Swift Challenger Sport 524 VW Carave
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I would hope so, Papa Pip, if that scenario does in fact apply. I only indicated that it was a possibility, thus suggesting that we all check our tyres, regardless of make, if we feel that they fit into the time period applicable to the Matador problem.
The company that I worked for, prior to retirement, is a producer of metal-to-rubber bonded products, many of them used in safety-critical applications. Many ingredients for the rubber compounds were received in plastic packaging. These went into the mill as received; the theory being that the plastic would be so dispersed throughout the rubber as to be inconsequential.
Assuming tyre manufacturers employ similar practices, my thoughts go along the lines that something unusual may have occurred at the rubber milling stage. But, as tyres are "built" in layers prior to going into the moulding process, and use other materials with the rubber (e.g. rayon), the inclusion of any incompatible substance (contamination) could contribute to the fault. And all the materials used in tyres are available to all tyre manufacturers from common sources.
So,regular tyre inspection (car and van) is advisable. Not primarily because there may be a production fault, but also because these are the most abused components on car and van. Not because we ourselves abuse them, but because they (the tyres) have to withstand all the thumps and abrasions inflicted on them by rough and broken road surfaces. Dismal reading, what!
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14/10/2007 at 1:39pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: Swift Challenger Sport 524 VW Carave
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Quote: Originally posted by raymcm on 13/10/2007
Send them an email and ask which batches are affected.
Jan Marecek - Managing Director jan.marecek at matadoruk.co.uk
If you have Matador tyres, and feel you have good reason to be concerned, this is probably a good idea. But ask if it was an in-house problem, or if it concerned materials already faulty when bought in. This would help to deduce whether there may be other makes of tyre affected, although any such faulty batch could all have gone to Matador.
Then, in-house problems could be due to addition of incorrect compounds/ratio of compounds, insufficient milling to disperse all components of the compounds evenly (could cause e.g. lamination at the vulcanising stage). Also, the problem could be incorrect time/temperatures during the vulcanising process.
Providing that they can recover all the suspect tyres, and no accidents have apparently resulted, Matador would probably decline to divulge information that related to their technology and processes.
Bertie.
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