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Subject Topic: Cool Boxes and Food Safety Post Reply Post New Topic
12/5/2008 at 2:52pm
 Location: Surrey
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We have only ever camped for long weekends but are due to camp for a week in the summer.  Also a mouse died in our old (cheap and cheerful) box over the winter so have decided to probably buy an Igloo Maxcold 40.

I have looked through loads of advice on here and one recurrent idea seems to be to take pre-cooked meals frozen for use over first few days.  (One suggestion was to freeze everything you wouldn't need in first day, pre-made and otherwise like sausages.) 

However, I thought one of the WORST things to do (re food hygene and bacteria growth) with food was to let it defrost slowly and lets face it however good a cool box is going to be its not going to be below -18 degrees which a freezer has to be. 

Whereas if the box is as good as it says it is and keeps things at around freezing it is fridge cold so fresh stuff would stay cold enough for a few days.

Any ideas?? Thanks for looking!



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12/5/2008 at 3:12pm
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HI Sue As long as you defrost in a cool fridge max 8c you will be fine ,This day and age you are never than a few miles from some kind of food store example from Tesco to spar,so I think to take to much food is silly anyway ,when you can buy daily.If you do take food with you I suggest you only take fresh food for the first 2 days max.Always remember to keep cold 5c-8c to keep hot over 68c .But for goodness sake stop worrying ,make sure you have plenty of tuppaware keep your raw seperate from your cooked , In 15 years of camping we have never yet had food bourne illnesses,so CHILL OUT,and let common sense prevail      Happy Camping  Di


12/5/2008 at 3:18pm
 Location: swansea
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I always thought it was safer to defrost slowly. Like several hours, overnight  in the fridge rather than for  a few hours than on the kitchen worktop.

I thought the longer it stays very cold the fresher it stays, with less chance of bacteria developing.

don't know if the box you mean is a powered one or not, but, this is how I see it.

A coolbox is not going to perform as well as an electric or gas powered fridge, because every time it is opened, and food removed some coldness will be lost. The space  left by the removed item reduces the temp inside. I stuff the gaps left with newspapers scrunched up in carrier bags to try to keep it as full as possible.

so the more ice cold or frozen items there are in the box helps keep each other cold?

not a very technical explanation sorry, but I know what I mean

And I  ALWAYS make sure food is cooked or reheated until its absolutely boiling hot right through too.



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12/5/2008 at 3:30pm
 Location: Plymouth
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Hi Sue,  Im probably not that helpful but when we go camping we take tins and packet foods normally.. we have the same problem as you, we have cool bags and ice blocks but they are only good for the first day..and I would not trust to leave anything in it for a few days.  we tend buy perishable food from a local supermarket for the same day we need it when away or from the onsite camp shop if they have one.. 

keeping my eye on this Thread for info.....Cheers!!!!



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12/5/2008 at 4:39pm
 Location: Manchester
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As others have said, the best thing is to buy perishable things when you get there.  We use our coolbox for keeping drinks cool, milk reasonably fresh, and butter solid!  If we're going to have a meaty meal, we buy it when we want to eat it.

Also, if you don't fill your coolbox with food, you can put other things in it while travelling to and from site - thus saving on the packing space!



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12/5/2008 at 4:50pm
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To cut down on dead air space inside a coolbox, line it with one of these cheap supermarket coolbags, the kind they sell at the checkouts for about 70p to take your frozen stuff home in. Put the food and ice packs inside the liner and roll the top over to enclose the contents snugly. The double layer of insullation really increases the length of time the food stays cold, as does not cooling down an increasing amount of empty space inside the box.


12/5/2008 at 5:07pm
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Hi,

Freezing slowly is fine as long as it isn't exposed to direct sunlight (heat spots). As long as you are keeping  it at chill (fridge) temperature which is 1-5 degrees c. you should be fine. Temperatures over that are increasingly loved by bacteria.

Generally though I think food safety is common sense. We have a 3 way fridge which is fantastic even in hotter climates. But I must admit i do tend to buy fresh food every couple of days rather than keep for longer.



12/5/2008 at 5:12pm
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I always take my sausages with me frozen. Also 2 pints of milk frozen  two fresh. I also take something like spag bol which I have had extra portions of or chile con carne just to heat up on the first night. None of us have ever been ill camping except Nicola got german measles but that can't have been down to food! I like the security of knowing that we don't have to shop straight away. Never managed to have space in the cool box to fill up though !!!!

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12/5/2008 at 5:24pm
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The most important thing is to keep raw and cooked food separate when storing and preparing and using different utensils for each

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