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11/12/2008 at 11:31am
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We have a couple of pairs of cheapo compact binoculars but recently, while watching a Minky Whale in the Minch, we were loaned a set of decent ones and the resulting picture was just brilliant.
We feel that now is the time to invest in a decent set.

So do any of you use such things?

Would you suggest any particular magnification?

What size of lens should I aim for?

What is a good make?

Would you recommend any particular model?



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11/12/2008 at 12:02pm
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Many years ago I bought a pair of Leica 10X25 compact binoculars. I was so impressed with them that I also eventually got a pair of full size 12X50's of the same make. Not cheap but you will never hanker after another pair!

http://www.swoptics.co.uk/view.asp?KEY=620



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11/12/2008 at 1:00pm
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Try to buy your binoculars on a day when the light is poor, that way you will see the light gathering quality in different models and makes. For hand held I wouldn't go higher than 12 times magnification. 8x25 or 10x25 are probably the best for compact binoculars. Leica and Steiner are the ultimate for lens quality but Bushnell, Nikon, Pentax and Olympus are all good lenses too and are quite a bit cheaper. The quality of the lens is the most important part of the binoculars. We use Leica 8x20 compact binoculars for "pocket" use and a 30 year old pair of Leica 10x40b when size is not an issue (the image in these are so sharp your could cut yourself on it), OH also uses 30 year old pair of Austrian alpine binoculars from his Army days - think these are 8x40 and are fantastic in snow conditions but also superb in low light.
OH has been a photographer (miltary and civilian) for nearly 40 years so is very particular about lens quality.


11/12/2008 at 3:59pm
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Optics Warehouse can be useful as a price comparison site. For out and out service from people who actually know what they're talking about try Kay Optical 

 I would say that I had a set of good Opticrons 8x42, and I thought that they were very good until I tried a set of Swarovkski 10x42EL. I tried the Swarovskis on a dull day in November and it was like turning on a light switch. I have also recently had the use of a set of top end Opticron 10x42 and thought that they were excellent and, incidentally, under half the price of the Swarovski.

I find Leica and Zeiss too heavy to carry all day long but they are geat to use from a hide



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Another thing to bear in mind is the weight if they are to be hand held too heavy and the resultant hand shake will make them ineffective


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12/12/2008 at 11:08pm
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Thanks everyone. I did not realise that you could get "ordinary" binoculars that were so light and small that they are almost compact anyway.

I will need to look into this a lot further but at least I now am better informed when I go into shops looking at the different makes and models.

Once again, many thanks.



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13/12/2008 at 11:07pm
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I have the Leica 10x25 small and compact and brilliant


14/12/2008 at 1:10am
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Thanks Walt, yes, I am sure they are brilliant but at that price, I would be scared to take them out the car in case I dropped them.

Looking at different makes and types and following the suggestions made here, I think I will be going for something between £60 and £100 and about 10 x 25.

Unlike my camera where I protect it at all costs, binoculars will "live" in the car's glove box, be used by a few different folks and generally get some rough treatment in all weathers.
So I neither want to constantly be worrying about them nor be really upset if they get left behind somewhere.



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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 11/12/2008

We have a couple of pairs of cheapo compact binoculars but recently, while watching a Minky Whale in the Minch, we were loaned a set of decent ones and the resulting picture was just brilliant.


We feel that now is the time to invest in a decent set.

So do any of you use such things?

Would you suggest any particular magnification?

What size of lens should I aim for?

What is a good make?

Would you recommend any particular model?


Hi LD
As a keen birdwatcher quality bins are essential but mostly for close identification work ,Makes such as Zeiss,
Lica,Swarovski, are very expensive and not required I would say for watching wales
A pair of 10X40/42/or50 would be Ideal don't touch the zoom bins
Binoculars with magnifications above 10X are very hard to hold still and binoculars with an object lens less than 40 do not allow enough light in.
A good all round binocular would be something on the lines of Opticron Countryman BGA 10X42 at around £200 these roof prism bins are very well made and as good as binoculars at twice their price
These are the best value one I can find
here
But for bird watching these are the best in my opinion

Best of luck
Rex. here

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14/12/2008 at 8:15pm
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Thanks Rex, I am still trying to get my head around all the termanology of BGA & DCF.GA & LE WP. All very complicated.

I am looking towards 10 X 42 but now is the time to go into a shop and see for myself the difference between 10 X and 8 X.

I will let you know what I eventually decide on.



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18/12/2008 at 8:00pm
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I seem to recall that the Caravan Club or Practical Caravan mags gave Clarkes Compact a very good value for money "best buy". The are available,surprisingly, from Machine Mart outlets and the web. When I loose my cheap spanish ones, that is where I will be going


18/12/2008 at 8:12pm
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Thanks Crawswill, I would have to see through them before going that route but yes they do look good value for the money.

I have been advised not to go for the Zoom variety but to go for at least a 42mm Objective Lens and in doing so, we are taking £80 plus for a decent pair.

I have not yet been able to escape to the Big Smoke to try some Binoc shops.

Looks like it will be after Christmas now.



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18/12/2008 at 8:19pm
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The bigger the objective lense the easier they are to use, and they let in more light to improve the definition, but at 42 mm they will not be that compact. You will need to decide if you will be a serious user or if you just want them in the glove box or ruck sack  merely for  a bit of general inertest

regards

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18/12/2008 at 8:25pm
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I found the Clarkes reference as Model number BIN103025

Hope this helps



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Thanks Crawswill, yes, I looked these up. As I say, I will need to look through them before I decided.

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18/12/2008 at 8:31pm
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http://www.practicalcaravan.com/product/aug05.html

I found this link with the review,.................... I think I will go and lie down now

Good luck

Crawswill




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