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Subject Topic: rcd to household 3 way extension lead Post Reply Post New Topic
10/6/2009 at 12:18am
 Location: dorset
 Outfit: suncamp magnum xp (tent)
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hello everyone
newbie here
ive been a camper for many years but recently my wife has decided to go all "technological" ie ELECTRICKERY LIGHTS AND STUFF.......
im more than happy with my trusty gas stove and a torch but she wants more.
my question is :-she wants to buy an rcd with 3 sockets but why cant we buy a single rcd and then use a normal household extension lead inside the tent (3 socket)as long as we dont exceed the 13 amp limit on the ext lead.
we have a low voltage fridge and a single light bulb.
i expect you will all tell me i am being very silly and naive for trying to do it "on the cheap".
by the way,my wife works in the caravanning/camping supplies shop at MERLEY caravan park in dorset.her name is kath and she says a big "HELLOOOO" to everyone who knows her.
thanking you in advance
ken    


10/6/2009 at 12:36am
 Location: South Yorkshire
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10/6/2009 at 6:50am
 Location: cardiff
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greetings ken

i have allways used a one socket rcb in my tent with a 3 gang extension and have never encountered any probs with it. as long as common sense prevails and you keep all sockets in a dry area and out of the way of condensation then there should be no probs. (never buy the e-bay junk)

hope this helps.



10/6/2009 at 11:56am
 Location: Kent
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We've just got the camperlands triple socket EHU

http://www.camperlands.co.uk/store/x30281.html

at £39.99 it's cheaper than a lot of single socket EHUs.

It's got clips on the back to attach it to a pole and a loop to hang it from so it's easier to keep off the floor than a domestic 3-way adaptor.  It's also go splash covers on the sockets to help keep water out when their not being used.



10/6/2009 at 12:02pm
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That is really cheap.  ALDI have them in for £50 at the moment, which is itself  cheap.   Problem with what was originally proposed is the lack of overload protection.  An RCD will protect from cut wires & things like earth leakage, but the purpose made ones also have double pole circuit breakers fitted too.  These protect from overloads & are rated at 10Amp - not 16Amp as is the misconception.  I know if you have a plug in extension you have a fuse in the live on the plug, but these have been proven fatally flawed where there is revewrsed polarity - pretty common abroad, not such a problem in this country, still according to the IET all new installations must have 2 pole circuit breakers instead of fuses.  The sites circuit breakers are often locked inside the supply bollard, & often supply a number of pitches.  You'll be immensely popular if you knock one of those off in the night & have to get the site manager away from his telly.  The purpose made EHUs are also designed to withstand a "moist" environment unlike domestic equipment.  If you've read the main thread on this you'll know how much fuss some site owners are making over home made hook up cables, to the point where some people on here report sites insisting on checking the installation in peoples units before unlocking the supply box.  Splash out & get the real thing.

Steve.



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10/6/2009 at 12:57pm
 Location: Surrey
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Camperlands have the new Sunflair 4 way roll up reel for £49.99. Cheapest anywhere and at only £10 more than the standard 3 way with cable version I think good value. Slightly bigger in the car but off the ground and easy to spool.

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10/6/2009 at 3:10pm
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1st post! Been looking at all sorts of equipment today and really learning new stuff here. Looked at both these leads from Camperlands and am face with the question, what is the difference (presumuably in safety standard) between MCB and ELCB as a circuit breaking technology?

Got a feeling I'll need a degree in Electronics to understand the answer mind.

The 4 socket reel has ELCB but the 3 socket lead has RCD and I have seen elsewhere items with MCB protection.

Can anyone clear this up for me?


10/6/2009 at 7:47pm
 Location: Midlands
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Minature Circuit Breaker    Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker    Residual Current Device


10/6/2009 at 8:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Dan Mac on 10/6/2009

The 4 socket reel has ELCB but the 3 socket lead has RCD and I have seen elsewhere items with MCB protection.

Can anyone clear this up for me?

ELCB and RCD are the same thing, they used to be called Earth Leakage Circuit Breakers but the name was changed to Residual Current Device about 25 years ago.
As the name implies, they trip if there is a short to earth, thus preventing you from getting an electric shock.

The MCB acts in the same way as a fuse, although more precisely, preventing overloading of the circuit.



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