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Subject Topic: Aluminium poles v fibreglass poles Post Reply Post New Topic
04/8/2009 at 2:37pm
 Location: Yorkshire
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We bought a Eurohike tent from Millets last year to see how we would take to camping. We have had a few broken fibreglass poles that we have had to get replaced and I've since heard the poles of Millets tents are made up of two pieces of fibreglass that are stuck together lengthways, making them easy to break.

The breakages tend to be the second or third poles from the ends when trying to bend them to get the pins in each end.

Is it worth trying to source fibreglass poles that aren't made up of two pieces and replacing the broken poles or even all the poles to prevent this happening again?

Secondly, is it worth replacing all the poles with aluminium poles to prevent this happening? However, I am not sure how aluminium poles fit together (do they have the metal ferrules?) and have heard these can bend.

We are not sure what to do as we don't want to buy another tent, we love ours!



04/8/2009 at 3:16pm
 Location: The Love Shack
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You will always find aluminium poles in the really top end tents.

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Sue & Phil
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04/8/2009 at 3:41pm
 Location: Otley
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Alloy poles walk all over fibreglass! Stronger for their weight, more stable, they don't split and the ferrule is usually an integral part of the pole section so that you don't get snagging.

Tent Spares have alloy pole sections that you could use to make up complete poles. It's just a question of whether you think it's cost effective.

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04/8/2009 at 4:51pm
 Location: Yorkshire
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Many thanks Sue and Richard 17

I wasn't sure if the alloy ones could only be used with certain types of tents (ours is a tunnel tent with seams on the outer). I suppose as long as they are the same width (9.5mm) and length (I'll need to trim them down) they should work 17

Many thanks both!

Amber



05/8/2009 at 9:13pm
 Location: Weegieland Scotland
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Quote: Originally posted by Amber7 on 04/8/2009

Many thanks Sue and Richard <IMG alt=17 src="https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/forum_images/smiley20.gif" width=23 align=absMiddle>

I wasn't sure if the alloy ones could only be used with certain types of tents (ours is a tunnel tent with seams on the outer). I suppose as long as they are the same width (9.5mm) and length (I'll need to trim them down) they should work <IMG alt=17 src="https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/forum_images/smiley1.gif" align=absMiddle>

Many thanks both!

Amber




Amber - I'd be wary of buying expensive alloy poles of the same gauge as your glass fibre poles.

Alloy poles are used because they are lighter than glass fibre, not because they are stronger.

A big tent with alloys, like the polycotton Outwells, uses rigid alloy poles instead of steel, to save weight. These poles are not bendy.

Baby tents with alloys use thin light bendy poles, instead of thick heavy glass fibre bendy poles.

If you buy thick alloy poles to replace glass fibre bendy poles, you will need to eat lots of porridge and spinach to build up your muscles, because you will need lots of strength to bend them.

To replace glass fibre poles, you should be looking for thin bendy alloys. Not easy or cheap, as I too have looked at this in the past.

Z


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05/8/2009 at 9:24pm
 Location: Hayle Cornwall
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I would go with your first option and try to replace all the fibreglass poles with better quality fibreglass poles. Buy standard Vango poles to replace them or even the Outwell Duraflex (I think) poles to replace them. 

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06/8/2009 at 10:50am
 Location: Yorkshire
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Brilliant, many thanks Zorro and Nigel, you've cleared that up for me, and I now understand the differences between the alloy and fibre poles 17

Right, off now for new poles to try and replace myself, yikes!!!

Many thanks all

A



06/8/2009 at 4:43pm
 Location: North Wales
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Also - many tents have fibre poles that are meant to bend in severe weather. Replacing them with alloy would either snap the alloy pole or put undue stress on the tent material. 

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