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Personpetemillis
03/10/2009 at 7:28pm
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Some may remember posts concerning the fire piston. I bought one because I was intrigued, and have since found out more about them through the good people over on the bushcraftliving.combushcraftliving.com. BOD and Stuart have uploaded a film showing how they are made by the native Semelai in Malaysia. The vids (part 1 and 2) are here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NKq4ChNOew&feature=channel_page

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK2yqcKdUZc&NR=1

This is what the guys have to say about the fire piston:
"Jamri, a native Semelai, demonstrates the lost art of firepiston construction.
The firepiston creates fire by rapidly compressing a column of air, and thereby sufficiently increasing the temperature in the chamber to ignite the tinder placed in the cup at the head of the piston. (In excess of 430 degrees C)

In the early 19th century European explorers began encountering the native peoples of South East Asia and were astonished to see them utilizing a fire-lighting device they could not comprehend.
In 1877 Carl Linde gave a lecture in Munich in which he demonstrated a firepiston.
Rudolph Diesel was in attendance and this experience later stimulated him to designing the diesel engine.
Unfortunately, amongst its original inventors the knowledge of its construction and use is almost totally lost, replaced by the trappings of the modern world.

The process took approximately 2 hours, the gasket is made from fibres extracted from the bark of the Terap tree (Artocarpus Elasticus), the tinder is extracted from palms such as the Fishtail palm (Caryota) in Malaysia or the Apiang palm (Arenga undulatifolia) in Borneo. It is scraped from the layers which surround the palms heart."

It's interesting stuff.

Pete


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03/10/2009 at 8:04pm
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Very interesting but I think I will stick to matches or flint and steel!
Or in the case of the caravan, the piezo electric button!



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Persongreendemon
03/10/2009 at 8:44pm
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Amazing,

I am a carpenter and would need the following to logically construct this device with the following machinery.

electric saw to size block timber

lathe to turn the shape and form of piston and barrel

centre lathe with drill to core out piston hole

Tape/micrometer to size bore of piston and barrel

lathe to machine for gasket

workshop

electric

bacon butties

How to over complicate something with the modern world!!!!!!!!!

 


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04/10/2009 at 9:01am
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I watched this in awe. There are several other You tube videos showing variants, some made with modern tubes and metals. I have got to have a go now!


Personpetemillis
04/10/2009 at 2:15pm
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Greendemon, I'm no carpenter by a long shot, but your list of requirements for doing this is just what goes through my head when I watch this - instead he does it with a big knife and a sharpened screwdriver. And to think the fire piston dates back so far - how on earth did they figure it out?


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Steve McV
04/10/2009 at 4:50pm
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I saved myself the money & bought a box of matches.

Steve.



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Personpetemillis
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Steve, yep matches work. But it's not just about that. I've got matches, I've got lighters, but I also like to use a fire steel and other fire lighting methods. I just find it interesting, as do the kids. All part of it for us.


Steve McV
04/10/2009 at 6:41pm
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Pyro.


Personpetemillis
04/10/2009 at 7:43pm
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Maniac, maybe. Not just a pyro one either


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Quote: Originally posted by Steve McV on 04/10/2009

I saved myself the money & bought a box of matches.

Steve.



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