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21/10/2009 at 9:37am
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Hi all

Thinking of getting a new tv do i really need a 12v caravan tv.

They are so expensive!!!   Could i get a normal one which are far more cheaper.

Most of the time we use ehu anyway !!!!!!.

thanks jeza

 



21/10/2009 at 9:47am
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I would not bother with a 12 volt facility as we don't intend to use sites without electrics. You could always buy an inverter so that you could run the TV off the caravan battery on the few times you would be without electrics.

David



21/10/2009 at 10:17am
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I think tv's from camping & caravanning stores I've seen are a ridiculous price especially as most the ones I've seen in there I've never heard of the makes. I got mine off ebay for half the price of what it was going for in camping shops & it works well enough for me, but then I only brought it as I go to a lot of sites without EHU. But if you only go to sites with EHU you might as well get a normal tv for a fraction of the cost & it would probably be a better quality.

Not sure about using an invertor as I've heard they can drain your battery quite quickly.

Tich


21/10/2009 at 12:20pm
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Most small TVs and Freeview top boxes run on 12v anyway. They use a plug adapter to step down the voltage.

Our TV and Freeview box both came with mains and 12v plugs and they were not expensive.

We use a decent aerial (see here) and get good reception wherever we are.



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21/10/2009 at 12:41pm
 Location: Nottingham
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If your running a 12v TV on battery alone without EHU you will need some other means of keeping the battery charged up,as it will soon go flat.

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21/10/2009 at 1:15pm
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I think camping/caravan TVs are a complete rip-off. I would get a small domestic TV from Argos or others that may well run on 12v anyway.

Argos do have an ebay shop for end of lines etc. There are often good deals on there.



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21/10/2009 at 4:20pm
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We would only use a site with EHU so personally I wouldn't buy a 12v TV.  However we do have a TV with an integrated DVD player - useful when there is not much good on the box.

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21/10/2009 at 4:34pm
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We tend to just use sites with hookup too, we too have a small flat screen tv with dvd player and freeview built in.

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21/10/2009 at 7:26pm
 Location: Argyll Scotland
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Both our TV and the Freeview top box (both 12v & Mains) came from Aldi's. I cannot remember what we paid for them but as I never spend more than 50 quid on any of their offers, the TV must have been less than that and I am sure the Top Box was around the 20 quid mark.

EHU is okay but we tend to only be really interested in the news and weather, the rest being treated as a bonus on a rainy evening. Unfortunately everyone else seems to be using the maximum amount of electricity around this time and so if the EHU on a site is going to fail, it usually does so in the 6pm to 7pm period and then it can be several hours before the fault is found and repaired.

Yes, in winter I too like the comforts that an EHU will give me but I would never depend on it as my only source for heat, light and other comforts. Indeed I have been on sites where I have been connected to the EHU which has failed and I have been completely unaware of it having done so. It was not until the following morning when I heard others on about how bad the previous evening had been for them, that I realised what had happened.

There are just too many things that can (and often do) go wrong with EHU circuits on a caravan park that, in my opinion, it would be silly to depend on them when there is a perfectly good alternative source of power. IE A good battery with charger.



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21/10/2009 at 7:50pm
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We use a normal flat screen tv on mains. From what is said about the power consumption of 12v tv & satallite systems i recon they are pointless unless you are intending on using the tv for a very short time - they will drain your leisure battery faster than your wife can drain your wallet! Buy a decent dab radio for non ehu sites, and a mains tv system for when you have ehu. We always camp with ehu and have only experienced loss of supply a handfull of times. But our van can also make use of gas for heating/fridge/cooking so if the ehu does go pop we can still have cold beer, listen to the radio and have a decent meal, plus a hot shower too. We recon you cannot 100% rely on ehu, but it offers enough luxury to be essential for us for more than 1 or 2 nights away. By the time we use tha gas for everything, we have spent on gas what we can pay extra for the ehu, and thats why we love the 240v supply - decent tv, loads of lighting, plenty of hot water and dry warm air plus electric ring on the cooker - lovely lol!

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21/10/2009 at 11:41pm
 Location: St ALBANS
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We have a domestic 17" Hitachi LCD TV which has an inline 12 volt transformer.  It uses 5 amps which means that it would take approx 11 hours to half discharge (max recommended) our 110 amp battery.

Their are pros and cons to using a 12 volt TV.  You could ague that it is safer, more flexable in that it will work away from mains and even when connected to mains it will even out peak use of electricity if you are using a battery charger with a low ampage output.  However, it may be simpler to just plug a TV into the mains system.

You should always use a regulator (obtainable from maplins or amperor) when using a 12 volt LCD TV as the voltage can actually be as high as 14.5volts particuarly when the charger is on, which can burn out liquid cristal diodes on the screen resulting in dead spots.

Regards Bob



22/10/2009 at 6:33pm
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Greetings,

Whilst I agree with the previous comments about the lack of necessity in buying a dedicated camping/caravanning 12v tv, can I just issue a note of warning to those who, on finding that their TV is 12v with a step down plug to go into the mains, do NOT be tempted to cut off the plug and fit a 12v plug for the caravan (or whatever).

The voltage emitting from the battery can be anything up to 13.8volts and just might be enough to blow the internal fuse within the unit.

Instead, buy a small (75watts) inverter and run the TV through that.

Its a small price to pay for not getting a bill from the TV repairman.



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23/10/2009 at 8:12am
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Quote: Originally posted by emmitdb on 22/10/2009

Greetings,

Whilst I agree with the previous comments about the lack of necessity in buying a dedicated camping/caravanning 12v tv, can I just issue a note of warning to those who, on finding that their TV is 12v with a step down plug to go into the mains, do NOT be tempted to cut off the plug and fit a 12v plug for the caravan (or whatever).

The voltage emitting from the battery can be anything up to 13.8volts and just might be enough to blow the internal fuse within the unit.

Instead, buy a small (75watts) inverter and run the TV through that.

Its a small price to pay for not getting a bill from the TV repairman.


This is often said that a normal TV will be damaged by running direct from the 12v system, but I have never actually read anyone post that this has actually happend.  Does anyone have any direct experience of this happening or is it a scare so that you buy either an expensive specialist TV or a voltage regulator from amperor.  A bought a a combined Freeview/DVD from Ebuyer a couple of years ago for £130 irc made up a lead with 12v plug and its been fine.  Maybe I've been lucky.


23/10/2009 at 9:04am
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Hi all,  I think the wrong terminology is being used, an inverter is used to convert DC to alternating current.  This is not required, just a steady 12.5 volts ( regulated current).

Boff, I have never been brave enough to try a TV without the regulator as I dont want to damage it, I would rather pay £30 for the regulator than have to buy a new TV.  It may be that when you buy a 'camping' tv etc, the regulator is built in.

Correction, the tv I have is a Toshiba not Hitachi as last stated in my last mail.  When we take the TV camping we leave the mains lead behind as it is tucked behind furnature.

Regards Bob.

 



23/10/2009 at 9:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by boff on 23/10/2009
Quote: Originally posted by emmitdb on 22/10/2009

Greetings,

Whilst I agree with the previous comments about the lack of necessity in buying a dedicated camping/caravanning 12v tv, can I just issue a note of warning to those who, on finding that their TV is 12v with a step down plug to go into the mains, do NOT be tempted to cut off the plug and fit a 12v plug for the caravan (or whatever).

The voltage emitting from the battery can be anything up to 13.8volts and just might be enough to blow the internal fuse within the unit.

Instead, buy a small (75watts) inverter and run the TV through that.

Its a small price to pay for not getting a bill from the TV repairman.


This is often said that a normal TV will be damaged by running direct from the 12v system, but I have never actually read anyone post that this has actually happend.  Does anyone have any direct experience of this happening or is it a scare so that you buy either an expensive specialist TV or a voltage regulator from amperor.  A bought a a combined Freeview/DVD from Ebuyer a couple of years ago for £130 irc made up a lead with 12v plug and its been fine.  Maybe I've been lucky.

Boff,

I have a nikai ? 10.4" TV that has one of those external drop down adaptors plugging into the back. At the beginning of the season I had to return it to the seller (under warranty) It was returned with a note to state that the internal fuse had gone.

Previous to this I had run it directly from the caravans 12v system because we were on a site with no EHU.

That is why I posted my original message. A small inverter suitable fot a TV is less than a Tenner (delivered) and is a small price to pay for voltage stability.

AND FOR THE CYNICS OUT THERE!!! No, I don't sell inverters.



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I don't know what is cheap or expensive with regards to portable TV's since I don't at present use one, but I did notice that my local Tesco is selling a little TV with integrated feeview for £99.99p which nearly tempted me. I think it had a 13" screen.



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