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23/12/2009 at 4:59pm
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i have just started getting my camping gear ready for next year and decided being as we are going EHU i would get an electric mini kitchen. will this be fine to use or will i experience any problems?


23/12/2009 at 5:49pm
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the rings take 1000w and the oven/grill takes 900w


23/12/2009 at 6:01pm
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Using the two together and nothing else you will need at least 8 amps.



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depends on the HU i use the easy way

5amp=1000w

10amp=2000w

16amp=3000w

there are more accurate formula but this way is simple and works

mike



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The other easy to remember rule is only one 'heating element' at a time that could be kettle, heater, Hob etc

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23/12/2009 at 6:53pm
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Hi. When you say the rings take 1000 watts, could you please clarify. How many rings are there? and are they 1000 watts each or in total. Using Mike's table above, if there are two rings each of 1000 watts and an oven/grill at 900 watts you could easily be looking at getting on for 16 amps in round figures. However, not all sites have 16 amp hookups. Some an be only 10 amps and others have been reported as low as 6 amps. So the message has to be think carefully before going down the electric route only. Personally we use a gas cooker with a grill which can cope with all our cooking needs, but also take an electric kettle, toaster, fan heater, mini electric oven, slow cooker etc which all help to make life sooooo much easier if we have a decent power hook-up.

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so using the double hob might be pushing it?


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Most campsites seem to have 10amp supplies but quite a few have 16amp. There may still be a few sites around that still only offer 5amps so when you book a pitch you should always ask what the power supply is.

Electrical equipment usually has a label on it somewhere which tells you how many Watts it uses. You have to convert this to Amps so that you know how many Amps it will draw from the supply.

Watts divided by Volts = Amps.

Add up the watts of all the electrical equipment you want to use then divide by 230 or 240 volts and this will give you the total amps. You obviously have to keep within the campsite supply or you will trip the fuses, so you won't be able to use everything at the same time. 

I use this table which another member kindly posted some time back. I print off a copy and take it with me as a quick reference

WATTS TO AMPS CONVERSION

 

60 Watts    =    0.26 Amp

100 Watts    =    0.43 Amp

200 Watts    =    0.87 Amp

300 Watts    =    1.30 Amp

400 Watts    =    1.74 Amp

500 Watts    =    2.17 Amp

600 Watts    =    2.61 Amp

700 Watts    =    3.04 Amp

800 Watts    =    3.48 Amp

900 Watts    =    3.91 Amp

1000 Watts    =    4.35 Amp

1100 Watts    =    4.78 Amp

1200 Watts    =    5.22 Amp

1300 Watts    =    5.65 Amp

1400 Watts    =    6.09 Amp

1500 Watts    =    6.52 Amp

1600 Watts    =    6.96 Amp

1700 Watts    =    7.39 Amp

1800 Watts    =    7.83 Amp

1900 Watts    =    8.26 Amp

2000 Watts    =    8.70 Amp

2100 Watts    =    9.13 Amp

2200 Watts    =    9.57 Amp

2300 Watts    =    10.00 Amp

2400 Watts    =    10.43 Amp

2500 Watts    =    10.87 Amp

2600 Watts    =   11.30 Amp

2700 Watts    =   11.74 Amp

2800 Watts    =    12.17Amp

2900 Watts    =   12.61 Amp

3000 Watts    =    13.04 Amp

3100 Watts    =    13.48 Amp

3200 Watts    =    13.91 Amp

3300 Watts    =    14.35 Amp

3400 Watts    =    14.78 Amp

3500 Watts    =    15.22Amp

 

 

Using the above table you would probably get away with using both hobs on a 10amp supply but stick the oven or grill on and you would trip the supply. On a 16amp supply, no problems.



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23/12/2009 at 10:04pm
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Another thing to bear in mind, and a lot of people don't realise this.Assuming you are using a "proper" EHU.
Even if the site hook up point is backed up by a 16amp breaker the 10Amp breaker in your EHU will limit your use to 10amps anyway, so in the above chart posted by bob61 the maximum you can use at any one time will be 2200W.

Now, A 10A MCB will NOT trip at 10Amps but will trip after a time if that load is maintained. Inother words you do have a margin of error. so you could possibly go over by a couple of hundred watts for a very short time without tripping the supply.


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ok thanks for your help


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That's a very good point Dukedog. My EHU lead has a 16 amp breaker so I tend to forget lots of them are only 10 amps


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I always assume I have slightly less power than the bollard can provide because if everyone on site is drawing the maximum power then it can also trip!!

Personally I wouldn't use a mini kitchen for camping - apart from the fact it is bulky and heavy, they are designed to be used indoors.
How about keeping the EHU for lighting, heating and fridge/cool box and use gas for cooking?



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