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07/3/2010 at 7:28pm
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Hi all, I am in the process of buying camping equipment 2nd hand in prep for the start of the season. I am new to this so I apologise in advance if I sound stupid! My q is this, I think I got an excellent deal on ebay where I got a capingaz chef, cadac safari, electric lantern and aportable gas heater for £80. The eqipment is as good as new but I have now realised I need gas!! Can I get a gas cannister that will supply the cadac and campingaz or do I need different ones? What would people suggest? Thanks


07/3/2010 at 7:36pm
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Do your gas appliances have places to attach rubber gas hose to connect to gas bottles or do they use screw in gas cartriges?

If you need gas bottles & are staying in the UK, Calor bottles are cheaper for refills than Campingaz 907 bottles which is what you need if you are going abroad. You will also need a regulator for the top of the bottle.

Rather than pay full price for gas bottles get the intial one from a boot sale or council tip for a few quid. Once you have the bottle you exchange it for a full one each time paying only for the contents.


07/3/2010 at 7:41pm
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Thanx for quick response, the campingaz has a orange hose attached to it, the cadac has no piping with it, do you know if I need the same hose diameter for the cadac as what is on the campingaz, I will props go to the local tip tomorrow


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welcome to UKCS. No question is stupid, you can save a lot of money by asking here before buying the wrong thing.

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07/3/2010 at 9:09pm
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Hi there, as Floggitt says there is no such thing as a stupid question. Does your Cadac have somewhere to attach a hose. I don't know the Cadac, but it's normally looks like a ribbed nozzle. If this is the case you will need to feed it from a gas bottle through a suitable regulator and hose. In most cases the hose will be a standard diameter. You will also need a couple of jubilee clips to make sure it's held firmly in place on both the appliance and the regulator. If it were me, I would replace the hose on the cooker at the same time. The tube isn't expensive but it doesn't last forever.
Similarly, if you do get a secondhand gas bottle from the tip or car boot sale, I would immediately replace it even if it has gas in it. It may have been badly treated in the past and the thread or outlet may be damaged which could lead to a leak.
As for the heater, I haven't a clue what that would need. Do you have a make and model which would give us a clue.

By the way, welcome to the site.

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07/3/2010 at 9:14pm
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Ive just read the small print! My cadac is the Safari and states that a screw on cannister is needed! The heater runs on them small push in aerosol types so thats that one sorted, which leaves my campingaz chef....I was hoping to get just one pipe that would fit both cadac and campingaz stoves!


07/3/2010 at 9:23pm
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Oops, sorry about that. However, my earlier thoughts still apply to your cooker.

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07/3/2010 at 9:26pm
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Hi Lexington. It's probably better that your heater runs of cartridges anyway as it keeps the heater (which burns a lot of gas if used for extended purposes) seperate from your main gas supply. Ie. you won't suddenly discover you can't cook brekky in the morning :)   For the Camping Gaz stove I would suggest a 3.9 kg Propane cylinder available from camping stores and many petrol stations.


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Hi Levington, your stove will burn either Butanre or Propane with the appropriate regulator.  It is up to you which you choose as they both burn with the same flame.  However, Butane is cheaper as the cylinder will empty more slowly than Propane.  Propane is in red Calor Cylinders, Butane in blue.  Butane stops flowing near freezing though, so isn't any good very early Spring or in Winter.  We use Butane & camp from April to October no problems.  Many people will tell you that you can pick a cylinder up from your local council tip if you ask nicely.  Otherwise you pay to "buy" your first full cylinder, then exchange it for a full one when empty.  As Pete says, it would be a good idea to replace the rubber hose when you get a regulator as they do break down over the years.  Dip the end in a cup of boiling water to soften the rubber & put a drop of fairy liquid on the metal nozzle to help slide the hose on.  Fasten with a jubilee clip - there shoud already be one on each end of the hose.  Check the flames burn cleanly on your appliances.  A yellow sooty flame is a sign of trouble & can lead to problems with Carbon Monoxide.  Don't use if this happens - get the appliances checked out.  Also, avoid using the heater in the tent for the same reason. 

Enjoy your camping!

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08/3/2010 at 9:19pm
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Evening,

I have a CampinGaz Chef and have only ever used Butane, I am camping at Easter which may be quite cold, so will I be better off switching to Propane?  I've read that some folks use Propane all year round but is this as efficient as Butane in the summer months  

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08/3/2010 at 10:29pm
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I've never (yet!) used propane and by Easter hopefully the daytime temperature will be over 5 degrees, so you should be OK with butane, although to be sure of a coffee first thing you could take, say, a single burner stove with a propane/butane mix cartridge or a meths or solid fuel burner.

I understand - but stand to be corrected - that propane, while convenient to use year round, is marginally less economical than butane.


08/3/2010 at 10:53pm
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