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Subject Topic: £10 Suitcase Stoves at ASDA- any good?
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31/3/2010 at 10:46am
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Thanks everyone, i noticed some in another shop had a safety cut out device advertised on the packaging so will check if Mr ASDA has insisted on the same before purchasing!  Would prefer that option rather than pay £2 less.


31/3/2010 at 11:13am
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The "safety cut out" may just be the lever on the front,which disengages the canistor..

Of the three we've got,Gelert,HiGear and Campingaz,they are all the same apart from the colour and badging...I don't just mean that they appear the same,they are identical! 

Even the Campingaz stove,which you would've thought would be different in some way,looks as if it could've come off the same assembly line,..

On the subject of "flare-ups",yes they can happen(all the more reason to use stoves away from the tent!)but the couple that I've witnessed have both been down to user error.(..incorrectly fitting the cylinder and changing whilst still lit/hot!?!)

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Hi Chris, how can you change the cylinder while its still lit and its a cooker its going to be hot even with a new cylinder in it ?

These canisters have a cut out that locates in the stove to ensure that the engaging leaver cannot be locked unless the cylinder is in correctly.

Our fire was investigated by the store and also the manufacturer when we got back from the trip. The stove was badly burnt but was proved to not be at fault, the canister was the cause of the fire as the seal seat was not formed correctly allowing the gas to escape around the outer edge. The canisters were withdrawn from sale and the store no longer sell them, I cant say what brand they were but they were considerably cheaper than the more known brand names, to be honest the only place I have seen them since are independent pound shops and the like.

Paying the extra for peace of mind in my opinion is worth it. Yes I am sure that like the stoves a lot of these canisters are mass produced but there must also be a lower grade supply also as the cost difference in some cases can be substantial. I just cant see the big names using canisters of a lower grade due to their reputation within the market place.



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31/3/2010 at 4:53pm
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Hi..I was really refering to camping stoves/canistors in general(..inc the old type that pieced the canistor)..

I wasn't for one minute standing up for the build quality of all canistor manufacturers(..after all,they are probably all ,lovingly hand crafted in China now anyhow..  )

I was also recalling a time when a friend of ours,instead of locating the canistor correctly,just kept jamming/forcing it in,until he thought it was in place..only to find that,after several tries,it finally ignited..into a big ball of flame..due to his hamfistedness,not the fault of the canistor or stove..(..we did tell 'im..you could hear the gas hissing from the stove,from where we were sitting!  ) 

  



09/6/2010 at 12:24pm
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Just had to return one of this year's Asda £10 stoves as it wouldn't work properly. The Royal version I bought at Asda 2 years ago for £7 works flawlessly (providing you use a windshield and don't try and use the last bit of the canister when the heat output drops to something unusable)


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Also had to return our one to Asda, the cannisters were not connecting properly.  Tried different makes of cannisters but still had the same problem.


09/6/2010 at 1:16pm
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My sister had 1 for her first camping trip with us, it was ok on a calm day for heating beans etc, but on a slightly breezy day it took a nearly full tin of gas to boil the kettle! They're good little stoves for what they cost, but I still question their quality/reliability for how cheap they are. Say a stove has a retail of 7.99, how much do you think it actually costs to make in China?

All said and done tho, if your cooking away from your main tent with wind protection then they're the cheapest way to get cooking while away for the weekend!

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09/6/2010 at 1:35pm
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We have bought 3 suitcase stoves, from 3 different suppliers, none are the same make and we have never paid more than a tenner, I think you will be okay with the Asda one.


09/6/2010 at 2:11pm
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I have two BrightSpark suitcase stoves which I must have had for five or six years. They've been excellent and never been any trouble up until now, but am just about to bin one as it didn't work right when I tested it at home the other week.

Anyway, I went to pick up a HiGear replacement in GoOutdoors the other week and there was a noticeable drop down in build quality from the BrightSparks. Importantly, the HiGear stove did not have the protective upstand around the gas ring . I left the HiGear one where it was and plan to look around in the hope that someone still makes a slightly better version and they aren't just all the cheapest, most cut down model a manufacturer can turn out.

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09/6/2010 at 2:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Merry on 09/6/2010
I have two BrightSpark suitcase stoves which I must have had for five or six years. They've been excellent and never been any trouble up until now, but am just about to bin one as it didn't work right when I tested it at home the other week.

Anyway, I went to pick up a HiGear replacement in GoOutdoors the other week and there was a noticeable drop down in build quality from the BrightSparks. Importantly, the HiGear stove did not have the protective upstand around the gas ring . I left the HiGear one where it was and plan to look around in the hope that someone still makes a slightly better version and they aren't just all the cheapest, most cut down model a manufacturer can turn out.


Merry, our suitcase stove is round about 5 years old also, we haven't used it that much as I've always been a bit wary of the canister fitment, but you're right compared to a few years ago the quality seems to have got worse. Not in the market for any more stoves at the moment but if I was looking for something to replace a suitcase stove I'd be more likely to get one of these..




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09/6/2010 at 2:41pm
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That's an interesting point about the quality dropping...!

..as we've had ours' for a few years now,when I look at replacing them,if as you say the quality has dropped,I may see if the models from somewhere like Blacks are any better..if not,we may change "style" of stove altogether(..after all you can get twin burner hobs for less than £30 now..)

Although,we used our stoves at the weekend and they're still going strong...



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Quote: Originally posted by hlk01 on 09/6/2010Merry, our suitcase stove is round about 5 years old also, we haven't used it that much as I've always been a bit wary of the canister fitment, but you're right compared to a few years ago the quality seems to have got worse. Not in the market for any more stoves at the moment but if I was looking for something to replace a suitcase stove I'd be more likely to get one of these.I also looked at those recently but got one of these instead:

Coleman Perfect Flow 1 Burner


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We've used them for the last 3-4 years.

Never had any problems but if you do a search back on this site, there ARE a few horror stories. Enough to make me cook in the rain, anyway...

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Quote: Originally posted by hlk01 on 09/6/2010

Not in the market for any more stoves at the moment but if I was looking for something to replace a suitcase stove I'd be more likely to get one of these..





Hi, that's an interesting looking stove. What make is it?

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Millets have the Campingaz Bistro in the sale. Bought two for £20.00 (£10.00 each).


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Quote: Originally posted by Merry on 09/6/2010
Quote: Originally posted by hlk01 on 09/6/2010 Not in the market for any more stoves at the moment but if I was looking for something to replace a suitcase stove I'd be more likely to get one of these..



Hi, that's an interesting looking stove. What make is it?

Merry it's a Coleman single burner, runs of bottles propane, but if you wanted a canister stove anyway.. If you hunt round you can see them for around the £27 mark.
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