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13/6/2010 at 7:54pm
 Location: freckleton lancashire
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hi everyone, just placed order for coleman 424 and was thinking about safest way to store/ transport petrol, palstic / steel can?

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13/6/2010 at 8:05pm
 Location: North Yorkshire
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As long as it's an approved container designed specifically for petrol I don't think it matters whether it's plastic or metal. We use both types and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

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13/6/2010 at 11:00pm
 Location: Scotland
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13/6/2010 at 11:29pm
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You need a plastic 5 or 10 litre can (preferably 5 litre), some garages don't like you filling metal cans as they can spark (silly I know, they all used to be metal & petrol used to be more combustible in those days as well).
Then follow that with a trangia 1 litre bottle that hlk01 has very kindly pictured above (about £12.99 in GoOutdoors) & a medium sized funnel (not absolutely necessary, but useful).
You fill the 5 litre plastic can at the garage, then you put a litre at a time into the trangia bottle (they hold a litre, so no need to measure) this is where the funnel comes in handy.
The 424 stove holds about 1.2 litres, so when it runs out you can assume there's a little bit left in it (about 0.2 litre) so simply put the contents of the trangia bottle into the stove, this also avoids over filling.
This is my setup, & I think it should work well, anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
The trangia bottle has the best filler nozzle on it (IMO), but I'm sure another 1 litre bottle would do as they can be considered the more expensive option, but worth it IMO.


14/6/2010 at 1:16am
 Location: Cambridgeshire
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We carry our petrol in a plastic petrol can. We have a slection to choose from as we forgotton the petrol a couple of times and had to buy another can to buy some more .

For filling, I just fill the tank straight from the petrol can using the special funnel coleman provide. which if you do it properly  avoids over filling. We don't normally run our to empty, as it will inavriably go out half way through cooking dinner. I sometimes mean to just take the fuel we need in a couple of 1 litre fuel bottles,  but space is never enough of an issue for me to bother with it in reality.



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14/6/2010 at 1:22am
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I forgot about the special funnel, I just bought one of those as well (mine was missing from my 2nd hand stove). Do they actually stop over filling? I've had a look but can't quite work it out. (obviously my stove had no hand book either, good job the sticker was still on it!)


14/6/2010 at 6:29am
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Quote: Originally posted by nutgone on 14/6/2010
I forgot about the special funnel, I just bought one of those as well (mine was missing from my 2nd hand stove). Do they actually stop over filling? I've had a look but can't quite work it out. (obviously my stove had no hand book either, good job the sticker was still on it!)


It's not so much the funnel that stops overfilling. It's the fact that you should lay the fuel tank horizontal, so that the filler neck is lying at 45 degrees, that stops the overfilling, and this is where the funnel comes in handy.

The temptation is to lay the tank so that the filler neck is vertical, for easier pouring. This is when it is too easy to overfill, and petrol goes everywhere.

When properly "full", the level in the tank should just come up to the bottom of the filler neck when the tank is lying horizontal, as it would be when connected to the stove. This gives you the proper air space in the tank to allow pressurisation.

The same principle applies to all the Coleman petrol burners, although the other tanks are not separate items. They should all be filled while lying flat on the ground, with their filler necks at 45 degrees.

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15/6/2010 at 12:01am
 Location: Cambridgeshire
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IMO The special funnel does really help

When you fill the stove, the fuel flows freely throiugh the funnel as normal. Once it gets nearly full the funnels fills up. Stop pouring and it slowly drains into the tank. I assume that the little black pipe is a vent pipe to let the air out of the tank and the fuel in.



15/6/2010 at 12:17am
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Thanks you lot , I love my petrol stove, & am totally sold on the convenience of the whole idea, always good to learn a bit more about it. I'm sure I will have many years of faultless service out of it, especially with your guidance.

I'm still using the trangia bottle tho, I've bought it now. Maybe I should keep a litre of petrol in it as an emergency backup, just in case. (I am extreemly hard work if I don't get my cup of real coffee in the morning )


15/6/2010 at 3:22pm
 Location: North Dorset
 Outfit: Eurohike Buckingham 6 Classic
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Don't try to fill the stove fuel tank from a petrol pump. You waste a lot of fuel and upset the French garage owner!

We bought our 424 to save the space of a gas cylinder. However a 5 litre petrol can takes up nearly as much space but at least we don't have to worry about having to have a camping gaz bottle and regulator.

Ours has just come out of 2 years hibernation and is working fine. Looking forward to using it again on our trip to France in 3 weeks time.

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15/6/2010 at 10:44pm
 Location: King's Lynn
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 he special funnel is without doubt a necessity as it also has a fine mesh filter built into the botttom of it so no bits and pieces of debris get into the Coleman as this will ultimately lead up to a blockage.

 

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