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02/8/2010 at 10:24pm
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Driving for my job I have tried most of the sat navs. Loved navigon for the layout, functionality and map looks, but it randomly deleted my favourites, bought a tomtom with live services and would not trade back, also have navigon on my android phone as a backup, if you fly or sail get a garmin, if you drive casually get anything, if you drive professional (no not round a track) get tomtom, if you tow a caravan or drive a motor home, get a truck nav I.e.tomtom with truck maps, but none of these will replace your brain, if you know the route locally don't use your sat nav, they are for places you don't know.
And please don't follow it blindly, read road signs.
typed on android
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02/8/2010 at 10:50pm
Location: Rochdale
Outfit: Khyam Wayfarer 2009
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Quote: Originally posted by pepe63 on 02/8/2010...I keep having this conversation with my grown-up daughters.. "..but dad,I get free calls/ txts/photo messaging with my phone.."..blah blah.. No you don' t!..you're paying 'em £30-40+ a month,on an 18 month contract! 
yes you do, you pa your line renal for the line rental, any additional freebies on top are exactly that, of course they are in the business of making profit, but when you research mobile phones and their tariffs it is quite possible to find two identical phones, on the same tariff one with unlimited data usage, free texts, free minutes and another with no data usage, very few texts and very few minutes, in those circumstances it is very difficult to call the better deal anything other than operator offering incentives to attract customers, those incentives are usually in the form of freebies which you say re not free.
Additionally, when you consider the cost of a land line, suitable only for voice calls using a handset incapable of anything other than voice calls, then it is easy to see the cost effectiveness and feature rich abilities of mobile communications.
Vic, I am on t-mobile, 12 mth contract, £30 a month with unlimited data usage (3gb fup), as explained impossible to hit that level of usage even watching streaming tv and downloading apps while syncing calendars and emails etc, there literally aren't enough hours in a day to use 3gb a month on a mobile phone, I can't stress enough how hard you would have to hit it to come close to 3gigs.
To buy the phone sim free would have cost more than the contract costs, as you can see, you most definitely do get freebies with mobile phone operators.
Business models are changing all the time, the days of the end user exchanging cash for goods and services is disappearing, just look at google, microsoft charge literally hundreds of pounds for the very same services google provide free at point of use.
I have migrated fully from microsoft outlook and now let google's free services organise my life, what's more, it is easier to set up and works every time.
The minute google release a fully formed office package, which they will in time, then microsoft need to start worrying, as they are already losing a lot of business to google who provide business grade services for a fraction of the costs.
Shop smarter, it pays off if you keep an open mind.
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03/8/2010 at 12:45am
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I regularly exceed 100gb a month on my home broadband.
I am talking about data downloads on a mobile, although to be fair with hsdpa I have recorded 7megs download rate, but to hit 3gb a month on a mobile would be seriously difficult to do, there just isn't the usage for it, even streaming media from bbc iplayer doesn't chew it up in a month.
As explained, it is possible to get a handset on contract for less than the non contract non sim equivalent, effectively that means you are getting either the hardware at a reduced rate and conveniently paid for monthly at 0% apr over a year and receiving all services for free, or you are receiving the handset free of charge and paying for the services.
I can clearly see why you think nothing is free, and I have never denied businesses exist to make a profit, but I can assure you, some things re to the end user (domestic end user at least), google is the perfect example of this.
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What GPS to get nxt year?
Has a TomTom 920T with TMC. Great thing.
But NO TMC in France, Spain, Italy, Austria :-(
What are the alternatives?
Happy camping
Jens Jakob
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