I have an old Tilley Titan 2 burner+grill cooker from way back when and have been using it with CampingGaz. I have been given a 4.5kg Calor Gas bottle and want to convert. What do I need to do, or should I just swap for a CampingGaz bottle???
If the hose for the cooker is really old, it would be better changing it, all you need is to replace the campingaz regulator for the correct butane regulator, They are not expensive, about fiver or so, hose is about 1.50 a meter. can all be changed over in 10 mins or so,
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Hi. Just a thought. Is this a stove which runs off cylinder pressure rather than through a regulator? Does it have a little fitting which screws straight onto the bottle rather than through a regulator? If so, it might be more complicated to run it off Calor.
Thats the one Pete, I think there may be a problem with the pressure of the gas. Thought I would check on here first before rigging it up and losing my eyebows - kaboom!!
Hi. It is as I feared. I believe these were discontinued for safety reasons. I have been told they can flare up, particularly is the bottle should happen to get knocked over. This, I was told, can lead to liquid "gas" pouring from the burner and then vaporising which could be quite spectacular. However, I would have thought the best thing is to speak to Calor themselves to see if they do a fitting straight from the cylinder to a hose connection. And do check the hose can take the pressure if you do replace it.
The other thing to remember is that those cylinders have a screw fitting which is a left hand thread and you will need a suitable spanner.
Don't like the sound of that "vapourising" bit. Will do some research into the cooker then take it from there. Thanks for the help Pete - I can feel a purchase coming on !!
Quote: Originally posted by bobman on 09/3/2011
I have an old Tilley Titan 2 burner+grill cooker from way back when and have been using it with CampingGaz. I have been given a 4.5kg Calor Gas bottle and want to convert. What do I need to do, or should I just swap for a CampingGaz bottle???
Remember also that you cannot swap a Calor cylinder for a Camping Gaz one, if that is what you mean.
It sounds very much like an old high pressure stove which just has a brass fitting that goes straight onto the Camping Gaz bottle. So just stick with the Camping Gaz bottle as no one will sell you a fitting to come off a Calor bottle to make it direct / high pressure. You are just making work for yourself.
Remember when the hose goes that you have with the crimped fittings its going to be hard to get that replaced as well.
Regards
Gary Cross
If the cooker has a hose it would be worth trying it with a Calor bottle & regulator, it won't do any harm so worth a try. If the rubber hose is old with a crimped connector, carefully saw thru the crimped bit & the hose should come off to leave a nipple that can fit a new hose & jubilee clip.
Hi Bob DO NOT throw it away you have a top quality stove bettrer than the cheap junk sold today !!! I had a similar issue with a similar stove the pipe was dated 1976!! with the crimped conectors. You can buy the pipe from any industrial gas supplier ( i bought mine on line for under a tenner) cit off the crim connectors with a junior hacksaw and used good quality jubilee clips. Tested with washing up liquid in water and no leaks! If you wanted to be double sure if you took the pipe and ends to a hydralic pipe repair company they could replace the crimp connectors.
John
ps the pipe number for mine is ghl-bs3212. 4.8mm bore high pressure lpg
You can buy the crimping clips and correct fitting crimper off ebay, I thought about doing this type of thing on all my hoses, you buy the clips in bags of 100, they are the type used on welding/cutting hoses. The only thing you have to do is get the correct size of clip, as there is only a small limit on the size of the hose to be crimped and the size of the clip being used.
Just been doing a bit of searching, should come in handy sometime when working out gas pressures, for what I don't know
BUTANE: boiling point of approximately -0.5ºC and a vapour pressure of around 2 bar / 30 psi (at 15ºC)
Propane is more volatile than butane. A boiling point of approximately -42.1ºC and a vapour pressure of around 7 bar / 100 psi (at 15ºC), means it is not adversely affected by the UK’s colder weather.
Data taken from Calor site
Post last edited on 12/03/2011 08:34:07
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THE SOLUTION...My father in law who originally owned the Tilley had an adaptor for Calor, and after a trip to my local Calor stockist they confirmed it would be OK to use. So, out came the soap solution to do a connector and hose test, and hey presto, success. Because the stove uses gas at bottle pressure there is no need for a regulator. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread. If anyone else has one of the adaptors lying around - hold onto it, it is very handy!! Right, time for a cuppa!!.....