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Subject Topic: Fitting a replacement radio arial Post Reply Post New Topic
30/5/2011 at 1:21pm
 Location: Cheshire
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I want to replace my radio arial which is damaged with an identical "Ring" Caravan Radio Arial. I have located the point of entry of the wiring into the caravan but I cannot see how the arial is fitted onto the side wall of the caravan. There appears to be two screw places but no evidence of any screws-maybe blanks have been inserted. Any ideas on how to go about this job?

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30/5/2011 at 2:07pm
 Location: West Mids
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I fitted a VisionPlus aerial to mine (preferred over the Ring version), but from what I recall the 'Ring' does have blanking plugs that fill where the screws are fitted. These would normally prise out with a fine blade screwdriver or small knife.
The VisionPlus doesn't include plugs, but I preferred filling the screw holes with white sealant as a better seal.

Do I assume that you don't have the replacement yet to compare?

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30/5/2011 at 2:26pm
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Hi G&ACU,

No I have not yet bought a replacement. I have been trying to figure out how to get the old one off hence the question about the screws and blanks. It sounds as though I need to dig around a bit with a fine screw driver to remove the blanks and then I can simply unscrew the arial from the side of the caravan. I must say I am not impressed with the Ring Arial. Although it works fine as an arial its a very flimsy affair. It just broke off in my hand when putting it away before setting off for our homeward journey. Is the Vision Plus a more robust arial and does it take  the same size  screws and are the screw holes the same distance appart? Sorry to load you with so many questions but I really need answers to these question before changing to another make of arial as I do not wish to drill any more holes in the side of the caravan.



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30/5/2011 at 3:44pm
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It's been a year or so now, and I can't recall the differences in sizes to advise on the screw spacing query, but just measured mine and centres about 74mm (van at home).

I didn't like the 'Ring' branded version (it's only some badged foreign import thing I suspect) as it didn't look upto the job. The VisionPlus aerial has a protrusion from the back of about 10mm (all from memory this is), through which the cabling runs and obviously you need to make a hole for this in the outer wall too. There are two screw holes, one each top and bottom and the whole thing sits well on the van.

I'd be tempted to compare the two at your local dealer and providing the VP is a similar size, fit one of those. Even though it's likely the screw centres are different, with suitably placed mastic round the back of the aerial this shouldn't necessarily matter.

Other possibility; where's the radio in relation to your one board TV aerial (if you have one that is)? The Status aerial power pack usually has a seperate VHF output for radio use. Mine isn't conveniently located to route cabling easily, otherwise I'd have used that option as opposed to fitting a radio specific aerial.



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30/5/2011 at 8:36pm
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Many Thanks for your advice Paul. I intend visisting my local caravan part shop tomorrow and I will check both these arials out if they have them in stock.  I think you are right about the Ring  Arial being a cheap import and I like the look of the VP arial. My TV arial plus signal amlifier is at the back end of the caravan  and theCD player/radio is at the front. I assume the radio arial leads I will use are the same as on the existing arial which I think are quite seperate from the Status type TV arial. As the radio and arial are only a few feet apart the lead lengths are minimal unless of course I have got it wrong and the leads go all the way to the back of the caravan to the signal amplifier and then all the way back again to the radio.

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30/5/2011 at 9:26pm
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The aerial will have the radio feed already attached, there being a couple meters of cable terminated in the usual car radio aerial fitting. I can't remember with the Ring if it had a pre-amp built in, but the VP product does so you'll need to connect a single 12v wire from the aerial to a +12v supply off the radio (my JVC unit has a switched 12v output that provides aerial supply just when the radio is fully 'on'). The negative is taken from the common earth of the aerial connection.

The existing aerial won't go back to the Status booster; the VHF output of the booster/power-pack provides a VHF output for radio use which originates from the Status aerial itself.

Whichever product you opt for, get a length of mastic tape to seal the base prior to screwing down.

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31/5/2011 at 9:28am
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Many thanks Paul. I will get onto this today.

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01/6/2011 at 9:35am
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I managed to sort out my problem with the radio arial but not quite as I had planned. I could only find a "Ring" Arial at my local accessories shop so I decide to try and fit it. I ended up only changing the antenna which turned out to be a simple job as it is simply held in place with a screw once the arial has been unscrewed from the side of the caravan. Replacing the whole lot involved removing the old wiring which would not have been that straight forward a job as it seemde to disappear into the corner of the caravan into some channelling. The other problem was that I could not get access to the cd/radio. I could not get it out of its housing in a top cupboard. There are two key shaped tools which I have  previously used in caravans to release the radio by inserting one on each side of the cd/radio, but they didn't work on this one. Its a Daewoo and there were only two places where the release keys would go and these were both on the left hand side of the cd/radio. The bottom key went in the slot OK but the top one would not and I was unable to release the cd/radio from its housing. So I have solved my arial problem but I am left with the mystery of how to remove the cd/radio if this should become necessary. Any ideas?



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