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21/6/2011 at 6:57pm
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Another lighting question. I don't like the white light you get from LED or neon.
Anyone got any tips for the best lantern that is pwerful without being LED?


21/6/2011 at 7:23pm
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For inside the tent or out? Outside I use a Coleman Dual Fuel - wonderful things.


21/6/2011 at 8:34pm
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Thanks, but I was thinking inside!


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I would like to find a lantern with more "yellowish" light, too. I made the mistake of painting a very thin layer of yellow acrylic paint on the glass of my LED lantern, forgetting that the "white" colour of the LED light has a blue tinge, and that blue + yellow = green...

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22/6/2011 at 6:39am
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Some of the new LEDs are termed "warm" and they are definitely much better.


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Quote: Originally posted by happybonzo on 22/6/2011
Some of the new LEDs are termed "warm" and they are definitely much better.
That's a common but confusing way of describing them as the colour temperature is lower than the normal LEDs.


22/6/2011 at 4:04pm
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I'm a photographer and use a color meter to measure colour temperature. I tested my LED lantern yesterday and its average temp is 8000 kelvin. The monitor you're reading this on is likely to be 6500k, candle lights around 1800/2000k, for light bulbs its 2500 to 3500k depending on the type you use.

If you've bought an LED and want a warmer light you could gel the light the same way we do for lights and lenses when trying to achieve a colour balance between different light sources. You're going to lose some light intensity but it will warm the light for you.

http://www.rosco.com/us/filters/cinegel.cfm


22/6/2011 at 10:41pm
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keano, this looks very professional!

This is what I tried in a very unprofessional way by painting the yellow acrylic paint on the glass...

But since the LED has this blue tinge, is it possible at all to make the light warmer without it getting more green( addition of yellow) or violet (addition of red)?

Just thinking out of my experience when painting...

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23/6/2011 at 8:29am
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Quote: Originally posted by pingvin on 22/6/2011keano, this looks very professional! This is what I tried in a very unprofessional way by painting the yellow acrylic paint on the glass...But since the LED has this blue tinge, is it possible at all to make the light warmer without it getting more green( addition of yellow) or violet (addition of red)?

Just thinking out of my experience when painting...


Hi


I've got gels here that actually do the reveres of what you're trying to do, they'll cool warm lights. You've been seeing them in action for years in TV/Film/photographs and just haven't realized it, that's because they work. You'll be glad to know that what you need will cost you under a fiver http://www.hi-lights.tv/shop/184/250/

(I see you're in Denmark. You'll easily get a sheet just ask for a sheet of "Full CTO gel")

You will lose some brightness so it's a trade off, but when you need the extra light simply remove the gel. I like LED, low energy bulbs are the bane of my life



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23/6/2011 at 4:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by keano_71 on 23/6/2011
Quote: Originally posted by pingvin on 22/6/2011keano, this looks very professional! This is what I tried in a very unprofessional way by painting the yellow acrylic paint on the glass...But since the LED has this blue tinge, is it possible at all to make the light warmer without it getting more green( addition of yellow) or violet (addition of red)?Just thinking out of my experience when painting...
Hi


I've got gels here that actually do the reveres of what you're trying to do, they'll cool warm lights. You've been seeing them in action for years in TV/Film/photographs and just haven't realized it, that's because they work. You'll be glad to know that what you need will cost you under a fiver http://www.hi-lights.tv/shop/184/250/

(I see you're in Denmark. You'll easily get a sheet just ask for a sheet of "Full CTO gel")

You will lose some brightness so it's a trade off, but when you need the extra light simply remove the gel. I like LED, low energy bulbs are the bane of my life



Watch this video

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Is that the right filter for white high-power LEDs? It looks kind of pink. How much light do you think would be lost?


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23/6/2011 at 6:21pm
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Hi

that's not the actual colour of the gel. They've been lazy and shown a shot of a gel and applied it to all gels (CTO stands for colour temperature orange)

Have a look here http://www.leefilters.com/lighting/products/finder/ref:C46DD2D59CE24F/

There's various strengths you can buy, from 1/8 to full. If you buy a "full CTO gel" I recon you'll lose around a 1/4 of the lights intensity. Easy enough for chilling to though and a decent balance between warmth and light loss. You can always take it off should you need to

You'll get a sheet for £5. Just use some gaffers tape and tape around the light. You could not rip a gel with you bear hands, they're thin but tough

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24/6/2011 at 1:11am
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Hi keano and seanspotatobiz, this was helpful. Had forgotten that light works different from solid paint!
I'll see what I can get here in Denmark - I am so tired of the "cold" light...

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24/6/2011 at 8:40am
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Plenty of places to buy them from. Try here http://www.calumetphoto.de/store.cfm?&var=d&ckey=DE&lang=eng

It's a sheet of "Full CTO GEL" you want

Cheers


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Found the one!
Outwell LXR 400 lantern
Lights the whole tent with a nice warm light. Powerful enough for a six man tent, and can be dimmed.
Cost a few bob, but lighting problems now solved..!



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