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Subject Topic: how much ice do i need in my coolbox? Post Reply Post New Topic
04/7/2011 at 9:43pm
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Hi all, just recently purchased a coleman 50q xtreme coolbox and i seem to be struggling to get the temp down to "food zone" temp (1-5c) i've got just over 4 litres of solid ice in there using 2 frozen milk cartons but the thermometer only goes down to about 10c, is this normal or have i got a faulty box? i would of thought the temp would of dropped to round about freezing seem it only has to chill the air in the box.

Anybody got any thoughts on this matter, all help is appreciated im fairly new to camping.



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Probably needs more ice. When I had 35L Extreme I filled it with bags of ice cubes for 24 hours then on camp day put frozen milk, water, frozen food etc in base and layered with more bags of ice cubes before putting chilled items in. On campsite I put it outside, in shade of tent with wet towel on top. Made sure towel did not dry out ; though this is not really needed it helps keep box cool. Made own ice cubes over several days or shopbought. When ice melts leave water in box or use more ice. I did use blue ice packs but these thawed much quicker than proper ice.

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05/7/2011 at 9:26am
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I also find bags of ice better than freezer bricks, I can easily keep my stuff cool for 24 hours with two standard ice cube bags in my Campingaz cooler.

I lay one on bag of ice at the base, and stack stuff like milk bottles upright, and anything else that is waterproof, then I make sure anything I'm particularly wary of like chicken is laid on top, placing another bag of ice so it makes contact with the package. Normally I have a little headroom for things like butter...etc to sit ontop of the ice.

I kept raw chicken for 3 days in the cooler that way and it was fine - it's always worth making sure that raw meat is cold to the touch and smells fine, then you should be safe.

Another tip, if you enjoy a few beers or other drinks at a campsite then it's worth having a second cheapo soft cooler to store drinks in - this means you're not constantly opening up the food cooler letting the cool air out.



05/7/2011 at 5:28pm
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Thanks for your advice.

Will keep trying more ice till i can get the temp down to 5c got the temp down to 8c over night but have put the frozen milk cartons back in the freezer and have another one freezing as well so will be experimenting with approx 6 litres of ice tonight.

Gonna do what pretty much everyone across this website has said when i take it out for the first time and thats layer of ice on the base, freeze everything that can be froze and put that in next, then put fresh stuff and drinks in next pre chilled of course, then a layer of cubes on top, keep the box out of the tent in the shade during the day and top up with ice from the shop daily. Gonna take a some ice blocks with me just in case there isn't a tesco near by and get the site owners to freeze a couple of them each night.

Used electric coolbox in the past but gonna be braving the peak district and without any ECU for the first time in three weeks can't wait but the worst thing that could happen is i reach into my new cool box and pull out a warm beer, i hate warm beer  



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Other alternatives for beer is immerse bottles in bucket of water.

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05/7/2011 at 6:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fotogen on 05/7/2011
Other alternatives for beer is immerse bottles in bucket of water.


or oneself!!


05/7/2011 at 7:15pm
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I bought some reusable icecubes (come on a sheet like the ice cube bags) from poundland. They were great in the coolbox and had the added advantage of not leaving a load of water in the bottom of the coolbox. Will definately be investing in more.


11/7/2011 at 7:18pm
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Eventually i had 8 litres of ice in there in four 2 litre milk cartons and that got the temp down to 4c, after 48hrs it had only risen to 5-6c but by the third night had 9c, this was all in early 20s ambient heat. So to keep the temp in the "food zone" i'm gonna have to keep between 6 - 8 litres of ice in there at a time so a top up from the shop every two days should surfice and a healthy 40litres of space will be left in the box for food and drink.

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11/7/2011 at 8:23pm
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Mite be of interest to you, the review and modifications I did to my Coleman Xtreme. Here.

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11/7/2011 at 9:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Gareth29 on 11/7/2011
Mite be of interest to you, the review and modifications I did to my Coleman Xtreme. Here.
So just from putting a 1 cm thick polystyrene circle in the cup holders you can gain an extra day or two of ice?

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11/7/2011 at 9:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by grillnun on 11/7/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Gareth29 on 11/7/2011
Mite be of interest to you, the review and modifications I did to my Coleman Xtreme. Here.
So just from putting a 1 cm thick polystyrene circle in the cup holders you can gain an extra day or two of ice?


No is the short answer. The bungs I fitted are approx 4cm in depth in the cup holders. Quite a lot of cold retention is lost through these as standard.


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11/7/2011 at 10:48pm
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My lid has two grooves across the underside of the lid and they seem to be the thinnest point of insulation on mine then it's the cup holders, if i filled these with polystrene and maybe put some kind of draught excluder around the door i think could keep the ice for a couple of extra days.

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12/7/2011 at 7:04pm
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Go for it, any extra insulation you can add is a good thing. Make sure all empty spaces inside are also filled with bubble wrap or similar as not to waste ice chilling empty spaces.

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If I could offer a tip it would be to freeze three 5 litre water bottles and use them.  Yes they are bulky but this means that they have mass and will take ages to defrost.  They need at least 2-3 days in the freezer though to freeze properly.

When they are nearly defrosted in the cool box, we have bought packs of ice cubes from Lidl (89p per bag) and stuffed the ice cubes into the bottles, resealed them and put them in the cool box.  This is handy when there's nowhere to freeze water by the bottle and where campsites will charge a small fortune for freezing small ice-packs.  It also keeps your coolbox free of water from molten ice-cubes leaching blood from packs of meat etc as they get submerged and contaminating everything else that's in the box.




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