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28/1/2012 at 2:31pm
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Hi all we have been given a dehumidifier which was said to be in full working order, so we thought we would try it out in our van which has damp, but after 24 hours it had nothing in the tank.

if I put a bowl of water in the van will it extract it so that I can verify the dehumidifier is working?

I find it very strange that it hasnt extracted any moisture.



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What sort is it?

For electic ones to work it must not be too cold or the moisture in the air won't condense in the dehumidifier and drip off into the collecting bowl.

Bring it inside and put it near the bathroom or in the kitchin where is it warm and humid if it still does not collect water probably faulty.

They work by drawing the moist air over a very cold plate, the water in the air condenses on the plate and runs off into the collecting bowl. Same reason cold windows or walls get wet.

 



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If the air is dry then no water will be extracted. Air in winter can contain less humidity than air in warmer weather.

If the 'van is actually leaking it needs covering until you can repair it & its doubtful a dehumidifier would dry out the structure. If its not leaking but just feels damp you need to ensure the air can circulate though so check vents are not blocked.

All any dehumidifier device does is take the moisture out of the small amount of air that passes over it & stores the water in the 'van rather than allowing it to pass through.


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To be fair, dehumidifiers (plus bowls of salt etc) are a waste of time; sort your damp problem and chuck the device out.

As Tentz has alluded to, they simply draw the moisture which is in the air anyway (varies dependant on season etc) and can give the false impression that a van might have damp by storing naturally extracted moisture.

If your van suffers from damp, their must be ingress somewhere in the bodywork to start off with. Again, as mentioned by Tentz, check air flow/ventilation through the van isn't obstructed too.

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Bring it into the house and put it in a room with all the windows closed and put a bowl of water near it.It will take a few hours but if its working you should see water in the tank,

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Quote: Originally posted by jeff juke on 29/1/2012
Bring it into the house and put it in a room with all the windows closed and put a bowl of water near it.It will take a few hours but if its working you should see water in the tank,
Not necessarily.  They condense moisture from the air, they do not absorb water direct from a bowl.

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i have a reasonably large humidifier with the same problem,no water collecting in the container.although it sounds like it is working as it should,ie.motor running.it is a definite fault of humidifiers and needs repair.not found a repair shop of these as yet.cost????

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humidifier works differently it empties the water into the air
any dehumidifier will collect water ,no houses are dry, just breath puts enough vapour into the air to be collected.

they all are similar, air collects on a cold area drawn in by a fan(either using a peltier or in bigger versions a fridge type setup) where occasionally the cold is switched off letting the ice turn to water so it can drip into the collector .
in cold weather the ice just keeps forming stopping it working in sheds or outhouses.

a few hours in a warm place should show water collecting


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Quote: Originally posted by Bernie 29/1/2012
Quote: Originally posted by jeff juke on 29/1/2012Bring it into the house and put it in a room with all the windows closed and put a bowl of water near it.It will take a few hours but if its working you should see water in the tank,
Not necessarily.  They condense moisture from the air, they do not absorb water direct from a bowl.

If you have central heating Bernie and the air is dry, put a bowl of water in the room and it will evaporate. The water from the bowl will moisten the air.Water next to a dehumidifier will evaporate into the air and you will see it in the dehumidifier tank.As Fatbloke said,a few hours in a warm room you will see moisture being collected.

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Quote: Originally posted by jeff juke on 31/1/2012
Water next to a dehumidifier will evaporate into the air and you will see it in the dehumidifier tank.

Water near a heat source or in a warm room will evaporate, but in an unheated room the rate of vaporisation will be negligible, or was my 20 years of designing and commissioning air conditioning units wasted?  [;)]



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Was 2 city in guilds for light plant fitting and 2 years as plant fitter also wasted

PS..thats why i told him to bring it in the house..be warmer there..lol

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It depends how much they taught you about the principles of refrigeration, which is the basis for dehumidification. 

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I bet you were just sitting there watching to see what i would post..

And all done in the best possible humour Bernie.

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put it in the same room as a humidifier, then let them fight it out!!!



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