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Subject Topic: 4 night break-what to take? Post Reply Post New Topic
29/1/2012 at 10:44am
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ooh that rhymes!

Ok, so we're new to this camping lark. We had a few trips planned last year but didn't actually get away (our son has Autism and we didn't really plan very well- now he's diagnosed we have more ideas on how to make it stress free for him). So, what would you take with you for a 4 night break? (Thinking Whitsun onwards- 2 adults and 2 children who are 6 and 7).

The usual sleeping arrangements, kitchen set up, hob and cadac will be packed. But should we take dining table and chairs as well as inflatable sofa? Should we take the extra table to allow for more kitchen prep space? Should we take the awning or the extension for the Monty (or neither?!)

I don't mind putting it all up, I just don't want to spend hours on the last day taking it down and attempting to pack the car...but we need to be comfortable or we'll put the kids off for life.

We don't plan on ever having EHU (partly because our son won't put his flipping DSi down if we do but with out the EHU we have a very good excuse for him to only have it in the car as it'll run out of charge) and so we need chilly box suggestions- is a normal cold box sufficient or should I be looking at alternatives? We've got a big car  but I'm not sure how well a big cool box will fit so it needs to be absolutely necessary to find the extra space really.

Any advice from seasoned campers appreciated...and anyone who camps with an autistic child who has any tips, we'd appreciate those too!



29/1/2012 at 11:04am
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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My set up takes 4h to put up and 3h to take down, hence I seldom go camping for less than 4 nights, as it is not worth the hassle.

With my new tent, I can set up the kitchen in the porch in front, and I now take an extra table for prep etc., as the Coleman Dual Fuel 2-burner stove, which is now my stove of choice, takes up all the room on the concertina kitchen stand.

Apart from that, my set up has not changed since I started to camp on my own in 2009. However, it will change soon from blow up air bed to camp bed with self-inflating mattress combo, as I do not fancy having no bed in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere again.

I have added some glamping accessories in the form of fairy lights and bunting for this year too.

Apart from the usual for sleeping and cooking, I take a roll up aluminium table for inside the tent, plus a camping chair, and my one luxury item: a folding aluminium chair with a cushion, so that I can sit at the table properly (the camping chair is too low except when I am watching a film).

I also have a small table/stool combo for dinning outside and to put my feet up when it is not used as a table.

I do not have children to entertain, however, I always camp with EHU and take my laptop with me on camping trips. I also have a 28L thermo-electric cool box to keep the food chilled.

With regard to cool box, if you do not have EHU, then you would need to invest on a good cool box and ice packs, and look out for sites that have a ice pack freezing/exchange service.

Have a search on the forums in the Equipment section on non-electric cool box and read up on the reviews.

Not sure if the above helps. Can't really suggest on gear list as each person's requirements are very different to another.

My advice would be to make a list, and pack as much as you can take for your first trip, including kitchen sinks (I have 3, no joke!), and then review what you do not need afterwards, and adjust your gear list accordingly.

Better to be safe and sorry IMHO for your first trip.

Have fun!

DK

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29/1/2012 at 11:05am
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Hi witsend79!!!
I think you have answered your own question on what to take!! you want to be comfortable etc so hell yeah!! If you can fit it in take it!! we always take the lot if we are going with the kids to me thats the whole point!!!
From very little knowledge of autism would your son not be better with the same set up everytime??
As for cool box we have a 5 day igloo one!! not sure what sizes they come in ours is huge!!!!! It works fantastically as long as you prep it right before your trip!! there is lots of threads on here with lots of great advice!!


29/1/2012 at 11:11am
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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Here is a pic of my 5-nighter's set up back in Sep 2009, everything fitted into my car (a MINI Cooper) and the 415L roof box:



Here is a pic of my most recent trip over the Christmas weekend, a 4-nighter, no bike though, and I would need to have a tow bar and bike carrier installed in order to take my folding bike with me on future trips, until I get my trailer!



Both set ups were for just me and the dog!

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29/1/2012 at 12:39pm
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I think if you take too much stuff and have to spend hours and hours packing up (which always seems worse than setting up, don't you think?) it can put you off the whole experience. We've actually decided to sell tents during the packing up process, and vowed to streamline!

It's all down to personal choice, of course. The idea of lists is a good one, and something we've done ourselves. Write down what you don't use or could have done without, and also what you needed and didn't have with you. It's the only way, as everybody is different.


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29/1/2012 at 12:46pm
 Location: Kettering
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Thank you for your feed back. I think I'll go down the route of packing the essentials and then seeing what else we can get in...

 

DK, I love your set ups- espeically the canopy that covers the tent in the first picture- brilliant idea.



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P.S. It also depends what time of year you're going; if it's summer and you can sit outside on a rug, you could maybe do without the table and chairs and the blow up sofa? In winter, are you going to be using the Cadac and extra prep table, or could you maybe manage with just the cooking stove?

Same with the awning and extension, do you need them or could you maybe take a separate pop-up kitchen tent for short stays, to make pitching and striking pitch that much quicker?

Then again, maybe you could take them, but take them down the day before departure, so it's not such a huge task on the day?

We always take a table and chairs, because I like to have somewhere to prepare food and dish it up. That said, I'd take folding benches instead of chairs, because they are more compact and easy to put out of the way when not in use.

I'd personally not take the awning or the extension for a four night stay, but I would take EHU and either a fridge or at least an electric cool box, and esp in winter because I'd also take a heater of sorts.

I wouldn't take a full size Cadac for a 4 night stay, but that's just because they take up a lot of room and take quite a time to pack down (which is why we changed ours for a more simple Campingaz one, which just fixes to a gas bottle).

I wouldn't take a blow up sofa for 4 nights, but that's just because of the extra time to set up and then deflate and fold at the end of the stay. All these things add up, time-wise, and can feel a bit mammoth.

Our experience has taught us that we like things as simple as possible for shorter stays, but still functional and comfortable. But, that's us, and you need to find out what works for you.

Enjoy!


29/1/2012 at 1:54pm
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I like to be comfortable when camping. Unless it's a one nighter, I would take the same gear as for two weeks. After the second day, it just becomes hard work and a drag. If you have the space, then better to take the extra time setting up etc, than spend it missing out on home comforts. I don't go camping to rough it, I go to relax.

The biggest deciding factor for me, is which tent I am using. I have gear that is designed for different tents, so not usable in all of them. But there again, I would not take a small tent for a four day trip.



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29/1/2012 at 3:56pm
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
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Quote: Originally posted by witsend79 on 29/1/2012

DK, I love your set ups- espeically the canopy that covers the tent in the first picture- brilliant idea.



Thank you!

However, it took a lot of time and efforts to put up, and I only did it once, and vowed never again!


I then moved to smaller canopies that did not require so many poles and guys.

When Khyam finally made a Freelander-specific canopy that required 2 poles and 4 guys, I bought one and had some great trips with it until the tent broke last Sep 11.

Here is a couple of pics of the in-between set ups, first one was with a smaller canopy, and the second one with the Freelander canopy:





DK

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- 2024 - 10/56 inc. FR & NL
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- 2021 - 34
* Ex-tenter & solo female camper *
* Treat life events like a dog: If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away! *


30/1/2012 at 10:08pm
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We have a weekend set up that doesn't feel any less luxurious than our week setup. We are a family of 3 with a 5 year old boy. The only difference is the room available to spread out - which we don't miss for a weekend as we dump our son's bed in our inner tent and put a rug down so that he has a play room. He has a folding toy box with his entertainment in, otherwise its just holdalls for clothes and wash bags, a folding box on wheels (which holds a couple of backpacker tables, UFO lights, 2 suitcase stoves, a griddle for the stove, emergency kit, head torch, fire blanket, etc. etc.), a large tupperware box with all the kitchen type items plus a smaller one holding the nest of saucepans, folding colander, splash guard etc, a folding washing up bowl with water carrier, a couple of folding buckets and washing items, a roll up table, chairs, a tent carpet, a large dry bag holding all the bedding and the airbeds. The stoves go on the backpacker tables outside or a picnic table if available and we cook whilst sitting. We have a vango tarp, which we pitch if its raining, but its not been needed that much. Its all compact but we don't miss anything.

If we go in the big tent for longer, the only real additions apart from the bigger tent, carpet, footprint etc, is the Campingaz Kitchen Extra stove which has integral legs, shelves etc., the windbreak and the larger table. Just not needed for a weekend.



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