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14/6/2012 at 8:49am
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Bought two Gelert 10cm off the net last June.Going camping now to find one of them has split compleatly along the narrow edge seam further away from valves.
Never been used , stored with valves open.
How can i repair on site , have i got any chance of Gelert repairing it?
I purchased it from a company online and i will have to do a search when i get home.
The other on is fine!


14/6/2012 at 9:07am
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Send it back. It can't have been made properly.

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18/6/2012 at 6:01pm
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This is the reply i recieved today

I’m sorry, but there is very little we can do about items bought in a clearance sale after 9 months have elapsed. Not only our terms and conditions, but also distance selling regulations state that a buyer should examine items bought online and notify the seller of any defects within 7 days of receipt, even if they don’t intend to use them straight away. This is intended to protect both buyers and sellers and everything is geared up around this. Our autumn 2011 sale ended a long time ago, so we are unable to replace it and Credit/debit card regulations state that transactions can only be refunded back to the card originally used for the purchase, but as transactions are finalised and closed after 60 days we are unable to offer any form of refund.



I am sorry that we are unable to assist you, but I hope you can appreciate our position after such a long period of time has elapsed.

Can anyone tell me if this is correct?


18/6/2012 at 6:11pm
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Sale of goods act says items must be of a merchantable quality and this clearly isn't if it's failed so soon.    And while a credit card transaction might have a limit, they can still send you a cheque. I'd try again threatening legal action and/or trading standards if they don't accept liability.



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18/6/2012 at 6:19pm
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Do you think i have a case so to speak.
Originally we should have used them last October but my mother was rushed in to hospital,this it the fist time they should have been used this year.
Did i do right leaving the valves open for all this time?


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18/6/2012 at 6:28pm
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according to "Which"

If your claim is about a problem that arises within six months of buying the product, it's up to the retailer to prove that the goods were of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, or 'as described' when it sold them e.g. by showing that the problem was caused by an external factor such as accidental damage. Beyond six months, it's up to you to prove that the problem was there when you received the goods even if it has taken until now to come to light.

So you may need to prove that the fault was not down to ordinary wear and tear or damage you caused, and that the product (or a component) should have lasted longer than it did. To do this you may need an expert's report, for example from an engineer or mechanic.


18/6/2012 at 9:43pm
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Strikes me as poor after sales service. My first Fat Airic broke in the second year of use - faulty valve. They replaced it free of charge. Had a similar problem with the replacement and they offered me a new valve or if that didn't work asked me to send the mat back and they'd look at it for me and replace it/repair it. That is fantastic service.



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19/6/2012 at 8:40am
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Surely the seam has split within the one year warranty period?

You aren't wanting to return it because you've changed your mind, the item is faulty. Big difference.

I'd ask the retailer (who is it?) to replace, and direct them to this thread.


19/6/2012 at 10:16am
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The item is faulty so your rights are enhanced – you’re not trying to return the product because you don’t like it, it has developed a fault:

The following was taken from the Gelert Website:

I have a complaint about a GELERT product, what do I do?
If your complaint relates to a fault with a product you will need to return the product to the store you purchased it from. Every product comes with a 12 month warranty against manufacturing faults.

Ignore the fact it was a clearance sale unless the item was sold as faulty then you have a case. Have a read through the MSE guide below and then ring them, advise them the Gelert website advises you to contact the retailer as the item is faulty and has a 12 month warranty then see what they say...

I find Money Saving Expert has a good consumer rights article here

Just tell them the mats have developed a fault within 12 months you don't know when. You assume it was from new but can't be sure. All you do know is they have failed within 12 months. At the very least they should either offer to repair or replace them (via Gelert).

Let us know how you get on!




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19/6/2012 at 1:42pm
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It is totally irrelevant that the items were bought in a clearance sale. Unless they are sold as faulty goods and they specify the fault then they are still new goods and therefore you still have exactly the same consumer protection as paying full price.

The distance selling regulations do not replace the Sale of Good Act and other consumer protection laws. They are an enhancement to them if you have bought say over the internet or telephone and have not had chance to see/inspect the goods. As I understand it the 7 day rule applies to the right to cancel the contract (supply of goods) and obtain a refund. That is you have the right to get your money back by simply changing your mind (ie decide you don't want the goods or want to buy them from that supplier) within 7 days of receipt and you do not need to tell them why or have a reaon for doing so. This does not apply to faulty goods. That is my interpretation but of course I could be wrong.

They have other options to refund other than to the card used. They can offer a credit for other purchases, they can forward a cheque or make a direct presentation to your bank. If this was not allowed how do they go about refunding someone within their alleged 60 day card refund window if that person has cancelled their card and no longer has that account with the card supplier? The money laundering regulations do not allow them to hold monies due to customers for refund without refunding it by any means possible.

The goods appear faulty and they should therefore be dealing with this matter.

Good luck,



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19/6/2012 at 6:21pm
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hello and thanks for the replies
I emailed yesterday and put a few quotes in and had a better responce.
Iv had to take and email photos of the damage and the condition of the mat's
Under Gelerts Guarantee they will decide if its damage by me or a mauufaturing fault. I took phots of the good and faulty mats as a reference.


19/6/2012 at 8:38pm
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How will they know it's not a manufacturing fault..?


20/6/2012 at 6:33am
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Its up to me to prove that i have not abused them. I told him in my first e mail i had inspected and stored properly . Which i have in the photo s
according to him gelert
Will be cake to tell by them Will be able to tell by them.


20/6/2012 at 7:14am
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suns: If they come back and say it is user error I would ask them to return the bed to Gelert for further inspection. Hopefully they will resolve it once they receive your photographs though.


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Hi
Just to let you all know i have been offered a refund.
Apparenlty Gelert went bust early last year and the take over company are trying to sort out the mess.
I am happy with the offer but surprised to hear Gelert went bust.Any ideas?



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