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Subject Topic: lilos and dampness! Post Reply Post New Topic
30/8/2012 at 3:59pm
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Has anyone experience of rubber lilos and dampness? My daughter's always has a damp body shape patch in the morning and her sleeping bag is damp too - she's definitely dry and she doesn't normally sweat a lot at home - is it the lilo she's got - something very durable and filled with a sort of talcom powder that puffs out when you deflate it, or can anyone shed any light on it? Happy to buy a new lilo if it might solve the problem.
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30/8/2012 at 5:01pm
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When you say "Lilo", do you mean "Air bed", or "Inflatable bed shaped toy for frolicking in Spanish hotel pools"

First impression is that this may not be suitable/robust enough for camping in a cold, damp UK field?

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30/8/2012 at 5:05pm
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Before you do, get a large sheet of cardboard on top of the lilo, then put a cotton sheet under her sleeping bag. Then see if it happens as cardboard like brown paper is an insulator and can  help to keep you warm. If the cardboard & sheet is damp then your daughter could be just one of those people like us that just cannot take the rubber under us as we sweat too much at night. Hence the cotton sheet NOT polycotton.

We had a double lilo once the type that was about 24 inches high when pumped up into a double bed. Covered in what looke like felt or velvet. That was a  lot better than the standard rubber, but still needed to separate that rubber & our body heat (heaters more like) Yuk! it was horrible.

We also used the sleeping bag opened to a double duvet and covered just ourselves with a cotton sheet as we were cooler at night then.

Hope you can get it sorted soon, hope this helps somewhat.



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30/8/2012 at 5:07pm
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Thanks for both those replies - I do mean airbed rather than toy thing for the sea. Good idea about the cardboard, thanks. I will try that - undoubtedly cheaper than a new airbed. We only use cotton sheets, so you might be right. Her sleeping bag is cotton lined, but I'm sure the filling isn't. Perhaps she's just too hot.
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30/8/2012 at 5:07pm
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You will probably find it is condensation from the cold air in the airbed/lilo and the warm body of your daughter. Do you insulate the floor (Picninc Blanket or similar) under the air bed. We have had the same thing on odd occasions in the past but recently we have not noticed it. We do fold up our quilt during the day now to let the bed get aired just incase.

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30/8/2012 at 5:17pm
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Thanks symrat - we haven't ever insulated the floor and will definitely do that next time. I have a space thermorest that might work well or the picnic blanket as you suggested. We do air the bed and sleeping bag though. Hopefully that will fix it, without needing to buy a new bed. Thank you!

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I am a bit evangelical about advising people to insulate under their airbeds (eveyone else on the forum rolls their eyes as I spout on yet again) but it is really important. An airbed is just a bag of cold air, next to the cold ground. I use Self inflating mats now, but when I did use airbeds I would put a picnic blanket down, then a foam roll mat, then the airbed on top of that. Then it's actually quite nice to put an opened out old sleeping bag on top of the airbed, which can be held on with a fitted sheet.

If I for some reason don't have any foam mats or picnic blankets, I have used cardboard from big boxes flattened out and laid underneath the airbed. The nearest shop will likely have some and be glad to be rid of them.


30/8/2012 at 6:03pm
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Quite a common thing to happen with airbeds just remove the sleeping bag/duvet and open it up every morning to air/dry it out

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31/8/2012 at 10:29am
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Hey, I had the same kinda problems. Aside from the natural condensation that comes with sleeping in a tent, the ground will also make the plastic mattress damp. Put a blanket underneath your inflatable and the dampness with disappear!


31/8/2012 at 10:50am
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Hey, I had the same kinda problems. Aside from the natural condensation that comes with sleeping in a tent, the ground will also make the plastic mattress damp. Put a blanket underneath your inflatable and the dampness with disappear!


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31/8/2012 at 12:27pm
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I reflect what everyone says.  As soon as I read your post, automatically thought of was condensation. 

I use sheets and blankets, or duvets, old sleeping bags to sleep  on, as it will help keep the moisture away. Modern sleeping bags are designed to wicker a way condensation.

It is always advised to air bedding.   17

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31/8/2012 at 7:56pm
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It is quite normal to sweat and exhale about a pint of liquid through the night. At home you don't notice it because it is warm enough to stay as a vapour and it eventual dissipates into the atmosphere. However, in a tent it will condense on the first cold surface it comes across - the inside of the tent where you see the condensation collect each morning, or the surface of the airbed which is full of cold air.

All the advice above is reducing the temperature difference to reduce the condensation. Just air the bedding each morning (it is pretty much pure water as the chemicals in the sweat stay on your skin) and you'll be fine.


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Old newspapers make very good insulation if you can't get any cardboard big enough.

I've upgraded to foil-backed, foam-backed picnic rugs that were 3 for £5 in Aldi a couple of years ago. No expense spared for us! 



31/8/2012 at 9:05pm
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Thanks for all suggestions. Will pack extra insulation on next trip, picnic blankets, cardboard, newspaper, the works! Thanks for all advice - much appreciated.

 



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