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19/11/2012 at 10:55pm
Location: Lichfield Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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You need to look at all the appliances that you want to run and identify on their labels the wattage that each appliance consumes. Add them all up together, see what the total is and whatever that figure is you need a generator more powerful than that of the total figure but the electric bar fire will most probably be in kilowatts which just 1 kilowatt is a thousand watts just on it's own. What you need is a silent suitcase generator made by Honda as they are reliable and much quieter but you will probably need the 2000 watt generator which will set you back around £1000. You could look for a less powerful one such as the Honda EX650 which is what I have but this will only power appliances up to a maximum 600 watts in total. My small electric hand held vacuum cleaner is 600 watts on it's own so I am using the maximum capacity when in operation but I use my generator mainly for keeping the on board leisure battery charged up when not on electric hook up. If you want to run appliances that produce high energy heat such as an electric kettle, a toaster or electric fire you need to be looking at quite a powerful generator.
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20/11/2012 at 4:34pm
Location: North Yorkshire Outfit: Holi * Perran 4 * Airedale 5
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Excellent advice from Tango55.
One thing you need to be aware of is that generators are not always very popular on sites and many ban them completely. Of those that do allow them, you are usually only allowed to use them for limited periods of time during daylight hours to top up a leisure battery (so no real opportunity to sit with the heater on watching TV in the evenings)
An alternative to give you power would be to look at getting EHU (electirc hook up) for your camper van. Either a portable unit like you would use for camping or having electircs wired into your van and then purchasing a hook up lead like a caravan would use. That way you would be able to use heater and TV without too much trouble. If you plan to use sites with no EHU then it may be a case of leaving such appliances at home during those trips.
Good Luck xx
------------- Helen xx
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20/11/2012 at 6:52pm
Location: Halifax West Yorkshire Outfit: VW Toureg & Coachman VIP 575
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I had bought a brand new Kipor ig2000 silent generator at a cost of £449, over 18 months ago, used it 3 times, went to use it again and a red overload light came on, although I actually had nothing plugged into it, so i contacted Kipor who said I needed a new mother board, they gave me their uk suppliers details, so i called them, and nearly fell off my chair when they quoted me £249.00. So don't touch them with a barge pole, as by looking at other forums this is a common occurance with them. In my opinion spend a little bit more money and buy a honda.
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20/11/2012 at 11:05pm
Location: Lichfield Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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pingvin: There's quite a huge difference in solar panel energy to generator power as a large 100 watt solar panel won't operate mains electric appliances such as an electric heater and even a small 650 watt generator having over 6 times as much power is still nowhere near enough power as to what the OP needs. If you read my first post regarding adding up the appliance wattage it doesn't take a genius mathematician to calculate that a solar panel is far from adequate in this instance.
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21/11/2012 at 2:59am
Location: Newcastle Outfit: Swift Conqueror 640 SAL Mk2 Shogun
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I have a Honda eu10i which is excellent for what I need. (£400 second hand off e-bay). However, there is no way it is suitable for providing heat, as a one bar electric fire would be using its maximum output and you could not use any other electical appliances at the same time. I'm afraid you have to use gas for heating when you have no electric hook up. A 6kg lightweight bottle of propane is now £21.99 so you need to factor this in if you are staying on a site without EHU. Having said that, I have just returned from a cold, wet, non EHU site where I got 4 days out of a bottle of gas and used 5 litres of petrol in the generator. (I could have used far less in the generator but there was no-one for miles and the genny makes the lighting so much brighter). A few years ago we went away in the winter when the temperature was minus 9 degrees centigrade and used a bottle of gas per day. The van was still under warranty then and was taken back to the dealer to have several faults repaired (eg ill- fitting door and fridge not properly sealed). However, I think you have to be slightly nuts to go away in winter as it takes ages to warm the van up. A camper van may be better as you get some heat from the engine on the journey to the site, to help wam the living area. Daft or not, I hope to go away at the beginning of December and am already booked up for New Year's Eve. (with EHU both times!!)
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21/11/2012 at 10:17am
Location: Cambs Outfit: Tin tent diddy tent BIG tent
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Additional insulation at floor level can cut the heating costs down considerably. 25-30mm Kingspan or similar insulation boards on floor under beds and in base of any cupboards at floor level is fairly easy to fit. 5mm XPS or similar boards under carpets also helps. Awning skirts also help to reduce snow and wind blowing under caravan without preventing adequate ventilation. If you are going to use gas for heating in the winter the cost of a Gaslow or similar type of refillable system such as Safefill will soon pay for itself in savings over the cost of Calor Lite bottles.
Under carpet electric heating is a good way of providing the base heat if on ehu and it is only about 150W per m2 and is therefore viable even on 6A supplies if used in conjunction with gas to bring the heat up to required level.
Minus 14C is the coldest for me so far and that was on 6A supply and using about 2kg of gas a day to top up the under carpet heating. Some caravans and motor homes with Alde heating have built in underfloor heating running off the Alde system but they tend to be very expensive top end units and I have not yet won the lottery to enable me to buy one.
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24/11/2012 at 1:13pm
Location: Lichfield Outfit: Coachman Amara 450
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Thank you 'HEJC72' and 'John Vernon' for your support in saying that my first post was good advice. At least I know that the advice given to the OP was correct but I have learned a lot about generators since owning one myself by reading the basics in books and particularly on this forum. The knowledge gained on this forum alone can be beneficial when passed on to other members but it's nice to know that the information given is actually the right advice.
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