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Subject Topic: 3 Way Fridges (gas safety) Post Reply Post New Topic
06/12/2012 at 3:32pm
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In the situation of no EHU, so you are using the gas to run a 3 way fridge, the official line from companies like 'Dometic' is that these fridges are not designed for internal use while using the gas.....

I thought this was the whole point of them? Surely leaving it outside the tent is too risky in regards theft etc,

What is the general thinking?

I mean in regards to using a 3way fridge in a tent, raised off the ground sheet to improve air flow and with a carbon monoxide detector in the tent.



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06/12/2012 at 3:41pm
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With a caravan they are ventilated to the outside world. Therefore no build up of gas/fumes in the van.

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06/12/2012 at 4:16pm
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Indeed, if they are installed correctly, they are vented to the outside of the van.

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06/12/2012 at 5:34pm
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It depends on the tent. for example if you had a large cheap tunnel with no sig & a gap around bottom of tent you would be ok using a free standing 3 way fridge box. In a tent with a sig definitely not. In a large old type canvas frame tent then probably & plenty do but nobody is going to say it is ok to sleep inside a tent with a gas flame burning, even a small flame as in a fridge.


06/12/2012 at 5:43pm
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Cheers for the reply Tentz, this is the tent in question...

http://freedomcamping.co.nz/product/tents/dome-tents/hubble

So far I havent used it but it does pride itself on its airflow and its 'starlight roof'.

You would think surely with all the ventilation it wouldnt be a problem... Although as you say no manufacturer would ever state due to the legal issues...



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From the picture it does appear to have a sewn in groundsheet so with ventilation closed it might not be a good idea to run fridge on gas. You would be ok with large vents open but in usual UK conditions you would probably want them shut at night. Most campsites have ehu so it might be better to run fridge on mains.


07/12/2012 at 1:08am
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The answer is no

The tent is not any different than any other with mesh windows with covers.  It is a sealed  plastic bag when all said and done.   Nor has it a kitchen area,  best bet is buy a utility tent  for cooking and cooling.

We have had far to many deaths already, be it gas  or solid fuel.

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07/12/2012 at 1:14am
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We've used our fridge on gas in both of our canvas frame tents, raised on wooden planks & with a CM detector nearby, however, canvas does breathe & our tents don't have a sig either.

Our Combi Camp has a factory fitted 3-way fridge in the kitchen unit, and that is fixed to the back of the trailer, so it is meant to be used inside the awning. I must admit that we've only used that one on EHU so far, but would have no quarms about using it on gas if needed.



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07/12/2012 at 1:46am
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Isn't  the combicamp kitchen vented under the main sealed cabin with a skirt around it ?

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07/12/2012 at 7:08am
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These fridges must have flue gases venting outside of any living accommodation,no matter how much air is entering and leaving you tent it will be a risk to life.


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07/12/2012 at 9:26am
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Hi

Im not saying you should use the fridge on gas in this tent but the tent you have from the research I have done has a huge mesh area in the roof 9most of the roof area) and low level vents that should always be open giving the tent a lot of air flow. The big side mesh panels will be closed at night but this as with most USA/AUS/NEW ZEALAND style tents have mega amounts of venting. This is not such a great idea in the UK (sorry). The main inner front door has a full mesh panel as well leading to the main front door in the porch area that has not got a SIG. So all in all this is one of the best vented tents on sale in the UK.

Gary



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07/12/2012 at 10:14am
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Hi not saying you should use it inside a tent but the amount of gas burnt is minimal.

Taken from spec sheet for 3 way chest fridge
Butane/Propane Gas - 7.5 grams per hour on min
Gas min. / max. 187/252 grams / 24 h

So I don't know if anybody on here could work out how much Carbon monoxide is produced from 252 grams of gas in 24hrs.

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07/12/2012 at 11:33am
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Quote: Originally posted by macaw on 07/12/2012
So I don't know if anybody on here could work out how much Carbon monoxide is produced from 252 grams of gas in 24hrs.



None at all, provided that there is adequate ventilation. Carbon Monoxide is only produced when there is insufficient oxygen to form carbon dioxide.

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07/12/2012 at 12:17pm
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we run our gas fridge in the front porch of our polycotton tent.
there is adequate ventilation there with the mesh panels.
At night when we zip these closed, the fridge is turned off.
Everything stays plenty cool enough until the morning, when the first one up takes the Poppy Dog out, and puts the kettle on, lights the fridge and opens the vents again.

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If I was to use a gas fridge in this tent I would put it in the porch area also. The only problem you have then is if the gas flame blows out but dont worry as the gas will cut out also.

Gary




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