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27/1/2014 at 7:47pm
Location: Derby. Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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Can't beat having A Good selection, if you ask me.
Having said that, the real skill is choosing the right ones, to suit the ground/conditions.....
Just got back from a 3 nighter oop north.
Ground was decent enough soil, but obviously v soft due to the rain, rain, and more rain.
I just used (Kampa's) wire pegs through the pin rings (x2 crossed) and another through the elastics around the base.
A good Heavy 9" Rock peg to each of the four corners, and Yellow delta's to all tent guys (apart from vent guys).
Wet, wild and windy, and all held perfectly, for the whole weekend.
HOWEVER.....
In addition to the above, I also set up a smallish (Vango adventure) tarp, to extend the shelter over my side door canopy. Elasticated edge around my door arch, extending pole to front centre point, and extending poles to each wing.... all pegged down with basic yellow plastic pegs (about 8" long, with a "T" shaped cross section).
On return from a (full) day out, the tarp was clinging on for dear life, the 3 poles were lying flat out on the floor (Thankfully, they avoided any contact with the tent!!) and 3 of the 6 pegs had pulled out..... one of them had been flung about 6metres, and stuck upright in the soft ground!
Quite by chance, there was no damage, other than a soiled tarp, of course. As it was dark, I just collected it all up, and bunged it in the boot.
Now, I have no excuse, other than my sheer inexperience telling me that these plastic pegs would be good enough to hold out in this soft ground..... when they clearly wasn't! I had more than enough rock pegs and as yet, unused, brand spanking new Stainless Delta's at my disposal (I used all the nylon ones on my tent guys).
I still have no idea whether my tarp filled up with rain, and the weight pulled the pegs out, or, more likely (He says, confidently!) that the wind got hold of it.
But either way, I now know that these yellow plastic T shape pegs were not suitable for this tarp, in this (soft/wet) ground.
No harm done... but that's 100% luck, rather than judgement!
I know for a fact, that if I had put up my not-so-cheap 4m x 3m polycotton pride and joy, I would not have even considered using these plastic pegs, so why I succumbed on this occasion, Lord only knows!
Next time, for a similar scenario, I'll seriously consider getting my shiny Stainless Delta's dirty!!
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27/1/2014 at 8:11pm
Location: Yorkshire Outfit: None Entered
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 27/1/2014
Can't beat having A Good selection, if you ask me.
Having said that, the real skill is choosing the right ones, to suit the ground/conditions.....
Just got back from a 3 nighter oop north.
Ground was decent enough soil, but obviously v soft due to the rain, rain, and more rain.
I just used (Kampa's) wire pegs through the pin rings (x2 crossed) and another through the elastics around the base.
A good Heavy 9" Rock peg to each of the four corners, and Yellow delta's to all tent guys (apart from vent guys).
Wet, wild and windy, and all held perfectly, for the whole weekend.
HOWEVER.....
In addition to the above, I also set up a smallish (Vango adventure) tarp, to extend the shelter over my side door canopy. Elasticated edge around my door arch, extending pole to front centre point, and extending poles to each wing.... all pegged down with basic yellow plastic pegs (about 8" long, with a "T" shaped cross section).
On return from a (full) day out, the tarp was clinging on for dear life, the 3 poles were lying flat out on the floor (Thankfully, they avoided any contact with the tent!!) and 3 of the 6 pegs had pulled out..... one of them had been flung about 6metres, and stuck upright in the soft ground!
Quite by chance, there was no damage, other than a soiled tarp, of course. As it was dark, I just collected it all up, and bunged it in the boot.
Now, I have no excuse, other than my sheer inexperience telling me that these plastic pegs would be good enough to hold out in this soft ground..... when they clearly wasn't! I had more than enough rock pegs and as yet, unused, brand spanking new Stainless Delta's at my disposal (I used all the nylon ones on my tent guys).
I still have no idea whether my tarp filled up with rain, and the weight pulled the pegs out, or, more likely (He says, confidently!) that the wind got hold of it.
But either way, I now know that these yellow plastic T shape pegs were not suitable for this tarp, in this (soft/wet) ground.
No harm done... but that's 100% luck, rather than judgement!
I know for a fact, that if I had put up my not-so-cheap 4m x 3m polycotton pride and joy, I would not have even considered using these plastic pegs, so why I succumbed on this occasion, Lord only knows!
Next time, for a similar scenario, I'll seriously consider getting my shiny Stainless Delta's dirty!!
Did you have a good time? Which site did you visit?
Yep, reckon your canopy would still be as squeaky clean as your stainless Delta pegs, if only you'd used 'em to secure it!
Glad to hear no harm was done.
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28/1/2014 at 12:14am
Location: Devizes Wiltshire Outfit: MWB VW Crafter PVC
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While camping at Thetford Forest C&CC last August, it rained heavily the first night, and I woke up to find one side of the tarp had collapsed, due to a combination of soft ground and weight of rain water on the tarp that made it sagged in the middle pulling the ridge pole inward.
After getting rid of the water collected on the tarp, I fixed the collapsed ridge pole quickly by double pegging both guys with 2 nylon Deltas at 90 deg to each other, and to reinforce the other ridge pole by double pegging too.
Later that morning, I worked out a way to prevent water from being collected on the tarp, by adding guying points in the middle of the tarp using Cling On clips, so that I can pull the tarp taut over the front part of the tent, with sufficient gradient and overhang for the rain water to run off down the side of the tent.
I was glad I had spare guys, Clam Cleat Line Loks, Cling On clips and spare pegs as part of my kit.
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