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08/7/2014 at 8:07am
Location: Derby.
Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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Ideally, they'd need to be waterproof, yes.
As for thickness, the thicker the better, I'd say, once you come off grass, and pitch on AWP's or Hardstandings. Or, of course, multiple thinner ones.
Main considerations would (should?) be weight and/or space in the motor, rather than budget.
It's very difficult for anyone to recommend a perfect solution, as it is very much dependant on the exact surface you are pitching on.
When we first went on a hardstanding, using one standard footprint (From Vango Icarus) it left a million tiny pinholes in the footprint. No damage to the SIG, I hasten to add, other than "dimples".
For that surface, I'd now put that same (pin-holed) footprint down first, then at least another footprint on top, if not two, before sitting my tent on it.
(The best I could describe it was stone and pitch (tar) all dry mixed, and rolled. Looks like messy/stoney tarmac, and breaks up a little when you peg into it. Can't think what it might be called!)
... CINDER TRACK? Is that it?
Personally, I'd call and discuss with the site first. It's not uncommon for them to offer to lend/hire such items, if it's a problem they've come up with before. And at the very least, they may just be happy to advise.
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08/7/2014 at 10:36am
Location: Devizes Wiltshire
Outfit: MWB VW Crafter PVC
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Mine is only a cheapo one that cost about 11 GBP including P & P in 2011, nominal size 3m x 4m, from the budget range at
Tarpulines Direct Budget Range
It is still going strong after a few years, and provides sufficient protection for my PVC ZIG, with no issues on an all weather pitch.
I have been advised to have some sort of protection against the furnitures digging into the ground, such as the plastic lids of Pringles.
I used plastic lids for pet food and most of the time they were fine, however, not when the ground was really soft e.g. soggy grass pitch, and they ended up broken.
Nowadays, I use mainly metal lids instead, with no reported issues.
Ideally the surface area of the tarp should be slightly less than the footprint of the groundsheet in order to minimise the risk of water ingress into the space between the tarp and groundsheet.
It bothers me whenever I see peeps using a tarp that is bigger than the footprint of their tents. When the weather is good it is fine, however, if the weather is wet, then they'll have 2 wet groundsheets to pack up!
Each to their own I suppose!
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