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PersonMotobiman
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Assume everyone knows you can buy on Ebay 10x G4 1.5 Watt LED cap bulbs to replace the 10 Watt ones in most caravans for only £6.99 incl postage?

Big saving in battery power.


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Remember you get what you pay for in terms of life span (related to adiquate heat disserpation in most cases) and quality of light colour some are very blue and don't offer any UV blocking http://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/2010/11/light-and-human-health-led-risks-highlighted.html


PersonMotobiman
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Oh absolutely.

You can certainly pay through the nose for the name or buy cheaper and replace them more often and the 'warm' ones are just that but both will save you power.........   and you don't spend much time under them.


PersonGrampian91
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After watching a review on youtube showing how dangerous those mains powered LEDs can be, I now avoid them.

Because the G10 can be inserted either way, there is a 50/50 chance that the shell is live.

When they opened it up the only thing separating the 2 terminals was a wafer thin board. After a while that will get brittle from the heat and breakdown.

Avoid cheap ones.


PersonMotobiman
18/3/2015 at 2:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 18/3/2015After watching a review on youtube showing how dangerous those mains powered LEDs can be, I now avoid them.

Because the G10 can be inserted either way, there is a 50/50 chance that the shell is live.

When they opened it up the only thing separating the 2 terminals was a wafer thin board. After a while that will get brittle from the heat and breakdown.

Avoid cheap ones.





What's any of this got to do with G4 12volt LEDs?


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Personandy monty
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Good warning for others though I use clip on gu10 lamps I got caught out with one of the cheap "deadly lamps"


PersonGrampian91
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Because you can get G4 labelled 240v AC bulbs, as well as various other voltages. Your original post did not mention 12v DC.


PersonMotobiman
18/3/2015 at 10:12pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 18/3/2015
Because you can get G4 labelled 240v AC bulbs, as well as various other voltages. Your original post did not mention 12v DC.




But it does mention 'big saving in battery power'.

I'm really glad I mentioned it now.

LIfe's too short to mess with you guys.


Personandy monty
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Big saving on battery power many use inverters now as well

Speaking with my health and safety head on I've seen numerous fires started by faulty 12v systems in the past (and been one of the on site fire team I've put 2 out myself) ...

, Since you've replaced the filament bulbs and lowered the draw have you conciddered de rating the supply fuse pointless having a potential supply of 10amp when your only drawing say 2amp at max loading fuse blowing earlier under fault cinditions is never a bad thing ?

Electrical safety in caravans and camping needs more emphasis on it personally in industry we get crucified for long trailing 230vac extension leads and kit that's not been tested...   

I've seen ehu cables jointed with terminal block wrapped in tape primary insulation hanging out of mangled blue plugs and many eBay special camping leads and some interesting 12v twist and taped joints then think you could be pitched right next to a fire waiting to happen..

Most industrial mobile plant have easy access battery isolator switches I'm surprised caravans don't need them


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PersonMotobiman
19/3/2015 at 8:40am
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Oh please, get off your soapbox.

The OP was clearly about low voltage bulbs and your making a mountain out of this........

Last word, bored now.


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Personandy monty
19/3/2015 at 10:11am
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But your the op?

Do your bulbs have built in current / voltage regulation for when the the mains battery charger cuts in and over volts them them past the rated 12v?

If not you might want to alter your lighting circuit to be be safe and prelong the life of the led bulb






led volt regulator


regulated led lamps

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He is the Original Poster, but I think he was referring to the Original Post. In any event, I think he's still allowed to get bored.


Personandy monty
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Oh well if mine and the other peoples comments help someone who is thinking about upgrading their outfits lighting it will be worth me posting....

How do I know all the above... By trial and error over the years when the smled were £10+ each from china and I swore and cursed when I killed £40 worth of led chip sets....


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Could somebody turn off the lights on the way out


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Quote: Originally posted by camcroft on 19/3/2015
Could somebody turn off the lights on the way out


If they are cheap chinese ones i wont be touching them



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As everyone is playing so nicely in this thread.....

bulbs grow in the ground, lamps provide light, so if your replacing them in your caravan your re-lamping


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