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Personpaul.jolley
07/6/2015 at 8:53pm
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Hi All

I have a Campingaz suitcase stove running off a Campingaz bottle - I chose Camping because we camp in France every year, but I am pretty sure I have had this bottle for about three years.

I recently bought a Weber Q1200 - works great, but burns through the small gas canisters very quickly.

I am considering buying a single Calor butane bottle to run both appliances - I am not sure what plumbing I need to do this safely, ideally with a connector to enable me to run a single unit at a time.

Is this a sensible idea and what do I need to make it happen?


Personclbewi
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You run a gas line from the bottle into a T piece, run one side to one appliance and the other side to other appliance and each appliance line has a quick connector so you can run only one appliance if you want to.

Hope this helps (or confused you)

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Claire and Colin


Personbilly
07/6/2015 at 9:14pm
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The T piece & quick release connectors here & here. You have 1 gas bottle & regulator, hose from regulator to T piece, then hose to each appliance. As pointed out if you use quick release connectors as well then you can mix & match with just 1 appliance connected if you wish.

Secure each hose connection with jubilee clip & warm hose ends in boiling water to push onto nipples easy.


Personboff
07/6/2015 at 9:44pm
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Good advice.   Just a couple of things to add. There is nothing to stop you from running the two items from a camping gaz bottle if you wish. Obviously camping gaz is more expensive than Calor but the choice is yours.

If the your Webber is the the same as my Q120 then the gas tubing is smaller than the standard 8mm tubbing so you will struggle to fit it. You can get reducers or a kit from weber to replace the fitted tubing and regulator for one that you can fit to a bigger gas bottle.
Note the nut on the gas valve is very tight and a left hand thread (you losen it by turning it clockwise). I remove the valve from the grill to do this.


Personpaul.jolley
07/6/2015 at 10:11pm
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Thanks guys - I followed the link to Hamiltons and here is what I think I need for Calor (lot cheaper than Campingaz!)

1 x HA343 - Reca Low Pressure Butane Gas Regulator          
4m x HA132 - 8.3mm LPG High Pressure Gas Hose     
1 x HA414 - Fulham Gas Hose Nozzle Tee          
6 x HA819 - Jubilee Hose Clip MOO          
2 x HA035H - 8mm Quick Release Gas Hose Coupling     

As Boff mentioned, I am not sure how to connect the gas hose to the Weber - the kit from Weber includes the regulator and is £40 I assume it is proprietory or US style coupling?


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Personboff
07/6/2015 at 10:33pm
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It is not proprietary but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. I bought one for buttons about £5 years ago off ebay.

I don't think think the thread is bsp it may be npt may be show it to a gasplumber and they could identify it.


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The regulator you have ordered is only for Calor butane 4.5kg bottle, that is the bottle you are using, yes?

If you want to be able to disconnect T piece & connect either appliance separately to gas bottle using quick release connectors you will need 3, ie 1 for each of the 3 sections of hose. You will need 12 jubilee clips as including connectors you have 12 hose joints.

Altenatively, if you just want to be able to use, say stove separately then 2 quick release connectors will be enough & 10 jubilee clips.

Post last edited on 08/06/2015 08:26:15


PersonKevie192
08/6/2015 at 9:28am
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As Billy x said, you want 3 sets of the quick release connectors to go on all 3 sides of the T piece. Make sure you put them on the right way so that if you disconnect one side the gas doesn't come spewing out. Don't ask me how I know...

Also, if you buy an additional set of quick release couplings you could attach a piece of hose to your campingaz regulator and put that in your kit too. That way, wherever you are you know you have the regulators and kit to run your appliances from Calor or Campingaz gas!


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We have a weber q100 that has small portable cans which ive adapted for larger cannisters. We have used a T connector off of the regulator which now gives us several options.
I also have an extra 3 meter length of gas hose so i can keep the bottle in the tent next to the stove and use the weber outside threading the hose through the cable inlet hole. I also have a shorter length for in the garden etc.

By using the quick release connectors i can still use the orignal portable cannisters too should i choose.

Be very careful trying to remove that gas tube nut on the weber you can break the valve if not careful and guess how i know that !!

Make sure you remove it and hold it in a vice to undo it.

Alternatively just cut the existing hose and use quick release connectors.


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Quote: Originally posted by lockie on 08/6/2015


Be very careful trying to remove that gas tube nut on the weber you can break the valve if not careful and guess how i know that !!

Make sure you remove it and hold it in a vice to undo it.

Alternatively just cut the existing hose and use quick release connectors.


So I am not the only one to damage a valve on a weber removing this nut.   

Absolutely agree remove which is not difficult an mount in a vice.



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Quote: Originally posted by boff on 09/6/2015
Quote: Originally posted by lockie on 08/6/2015

Be very careful trying to remove that gas tube nut on the weber you can break the valve if not careful and guess how i know that !!

Make sure you remove it and hold it in a vice to undo it.

Alternatively just cut the existing hose and use quick release connectors.


So I am not the only one to damage a valve on a weber removing this nut.   

Absolutely agree remove which is not difficult an mount in a vice.




I was lucky as I only broke the screw mounting lugs and repaired it with an excellent product called jb weld. It's a chemical metal type product but better than anything else I've used before. Works fine now and most likely stronger than before.



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