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JLines

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New to camping. Wondering whether it would be better to get 2 single burner suitcase type stoves or a 2 burner stove. Definitely want something that uses canisters rather than LPG cylinder. It will be for 2 adults.

Any advice/suggestions welcome.

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I don’t know if many twin burners that run off cartridges, but I personally would go suitcase for the convenience. I had a twin burner but it’s been sat in the loft for the past two years. If you do go for a suitcase stove, I recently bought a hubcap griddle for it, £7 from Go Outdoors. We can now griddle meat or toast bread on it as good as any gas bbq & it takes up hardly any space.

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Hi,

would the Outwell Olida be of interest to you?

2×3000W Variable Stainless steel burners
uses EN417 gas canisters
Auto piezo ignition
Windshield protection
Easy secure closing latch
Feet for stability
Braided stainless steel protected PTFE hose w/auto shut off
Gas consumption 2x218g/h
11.5cm H x 32cm W x 47.5cm L
4.4kg in weight

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Your really shouldn't buy a suitcase type stove. They explode if you put too large a pan on them and get it hot and the fakers are making dodgy fuel cans for them that leak and explode in use.

Pasta, rice and potatoes take 20 minutes to boil and simmer, with any disposable gas can this will get expensive over a weeks camp. Unless you intend to live on tinned potatoes, instant mash and quick noodles you'll need to consider a double burner stove, regulator and hose and a refillable gas cylinder. If you plan to camp in colder spring and autumn months you should consider using propane in orange/red cylinders but if you are just a fine weather summer camper blue butane Campingaz cylinders will be sufficient. The 904 size cylinder may be better for you than the 907.

If you still want to use disposable gas cans get something like the Campingaz Twister system. The cans use a propane/butane mix which is effective all year round, the cans come in different sizes and are easy to change. The can be removed from the stove when not in use.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campingaz-Twister-Plus-Stove-204187-CV-Gas-Burner-Camping-Stove/192992382562?hash=item2cef3e0e62:g:GLwAAOSwDk5UI2cC

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geoffprinter

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Just go electric as much as possible, its so much easier. Only downside is most sites only have a 10amp hookup, so we do have to use a suitcase style stove (GET A GOOD REPUTABLE MAKE ONE)sometimes as well. But if you choose wisely and check the ampage of any type of cooker you buy then you can cook most things. Unless you are one of these "mad" campers that doesn't use electric.

Electric breakfast, Teppanyaki grill..1800watt

Sunday Roast with Halogen Oven and gas stove to heat tinned veg.

Induction hob multitude of uses, even found it boiled the kettle quicker than our low wattage electric kettle.

Some might say "Thats not real camping, but it suits us.

DeborahTurner

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I am a mad non EHU camper and I have recently swapped from a suitcase stove to an Outwell Appetizer . This comes in a one burner or two burner model, and uses the small self sealing screw in butane / propane mix canisters.

It heats water very fast, and I feel much safer with it, the gas is away from the burner, the screw in feels safer than the suitcase ‘clip in’. It is lightweight and compact.

I think I saw Cross Camping had a very good deal in the sale. Gary Cross has done one of his videos comparing these stoves to suitcase.

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Never knew these soulless gas stoves were called suitcase stoves until I saw it on ukcs They barely qualify as a briefcase! I've normally heard & used the term for the double burner Coleman style.

These are fun.

& you can get double burner.

Decto

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Quote: Originally posted by Danvan on 02/9/2019
Hi,

would the Outwell Olida be of interest to you?

2×3000W Variable Stainless steel burners
uses EN417 gas canisters
Auto piezo ignition
Windshield protection
Easy secure closing latch
Feet for stability
Braided stainless steel protected PTFE hose w/auto shut off
Gas consumption 2x218g/h
11.5cm H x 32cm W x 47.5cm L
4.4kg in weight

Dan.

I've used an Olida for the last two years of family camping.

Works great with 3kw burners, lights instantly from the piezo ignition. The wind shield provides protection from wind if you cook outdoors or for your tent fabric if you cook under your tent canopy.

Gas cost is reasonable, the cartriges are £6-8 if you buy on campsites or Halfrauds but if you buy in bulk they can be had just over £3. Currently £3.25 below in packs of 6. are cheaper at some points of the year.

Mulibuy Gas

The gas is a 30% propane mix so suitable for all weathers.

When I worked out costs a couple of years back, at ~£3 the gas was far cheaper than the 907 refils (6 carts for £19.50 is the same amount of gas as 1 x 907). It was only a little more expensive than the small calor cylinders refils depending where you shopped.

I use just over 1 cartridge per week, though this is supplemented by an electric teriyaki grill,charcoal barbacue and eating out.

It really depends how much you plan to cook, if you're mostly warming up tinned potatoes etc. or makign a fry up then gas consumption is fine. If you want to boil potatoes for half an hour every day without the pan lid on then a bigger cylinder would probably be worth it.

It's also a shade under 3kg, not sure why they quote 4.4kg.

Nozza

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I have a Coleman dual burner with grill and a couple of cheapo suitcase stoves. I almost always just use the suitcase ones - so easy to set up, carry and clean.

The downside is that the butane cannisters they use don't last long but they're super cheap online

pepe63

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Quote: Originally posted by Nozza on 04/9/2019
I have a Coleman dual burner with grill and a couple of cheapo suitcase stoves. I almost always just use the suitcase ones - so easy to set up, carry and clean.

The downside is that the butane cannisters they use don't last long but they're super cheap online

Similar-ish here..(only a Kampa stove,not Coleman).

re; safety
As with any style of stove - assuming that they aren't cheapie-duffers to start with- they are only ever going to be a safe as the way in which they are used.

We've used a pair of the "suitcase" stoves for close on 15 years, without any issue. But they were "decent-ish" branded items, from a reputable shop, to start with(gelert?) and replaced in the last few years with *Campingaz Bistro versions(*which were probably only around 10-15 quid each,out of season, anyway)

But, I suppose it all depends on what someone wants them to do...

However,in recent years, we have seen some REALLY nasty looking examples in "discount" stores though...

Post last edited on 04/09/2019 10:15:22

DeborahTurner

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If you do use 2 suitcase stoves you must be really careful to follow the safety instructions about not putting them next to each other so that the canister vents of one are blocked by the one next to it.

Outwell Appetizer, lightweight, uses small cartridges, available as a single burner:

https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/15903716/outwell-appetizer-2-burner-stove-15903716

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Thanks for all the advice. I have opted for the Outwell Olida stove.

DeborahTurner

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Excellent!
It does look ideal.

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